Bystander, a game that looks similar to Papers, Please adds Linux support

Looks nice, but why did the 5.25" floppy have to enter the drive backwards?

Looks nice, but why did the 5.25" floppy have to enter the drive backwards?

It is getting more and more likely that the current generation of devs have never actually used floppy disk or even seen one in real life.

Looks nice, but why did the 5.25" floppy have to enter the drive backwards?

It is getting more and more likely that the current generation of devs have never actually used floppy disk or even seen one in real life.

They also got the disk slot right; but forgot to add the latch.





I feel so old.... :(

Looks nice, but why did the 5.25" floppy have to enter the drive backwards?

It is getting more and more likely that the current generation of devs have never actually used floppy disk or even seen one in real life.

They also got the disk slot right; but forgot to add the latch.





I feel so old.... :(

Jebus this all makes me want to file a bug report.

You call that a little? They even copied the font from Papers Please.

Looks nice, but why did the 5.25" floppy have to enter the drive backwards?

It is getting more and more likely that the current generation of devs have never actually used floppy disk or even seen one in real life.

They also got the disk slot right; but forgot to add the latch.





I feel so old.... :(

You got it all wrong. They imported their drives from Arstotzka, where they have always been manufactured that way.

You got it all wrong. They imported their drives from Arstotzka, where they have always been manufactured that way.

The driver looks more like it's been imported from COBRASTAN, where they're sold by this guy.


Last edited by walther von stolzing on 13 Dec 2017 at 5:34 pm UTC

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They also got the disk slot right; but forgot to add the latch.





I feel so old.... :(

The head loading mechanism actually looked like that in the era before the turning latch.
If you look for instance at the CBM8050 dual floppy fileserver you can't clearly see a mechanic, just a slot... That mechanic is there, but it's hard to see... You had to push it a bit backwards and then pull it downwards, until it springs into place.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Commodore_CBM_2001_%26_8050.jpg
Oh wait, this unit needs pulling up. Hmmm, 1540/1541 needed to be pushed down.
I do acknowledge that in the game it looks clear, so you should have seen at least something.
Pure for nostalgic reasons I want a CBM8296, and then replace the board and insides by a small odroid and an lcd panel.

If you look for instance at the CBM8050 dual floppy fileserver you can't clearly see a mechanic, just a slot... That mechanic is there, but it's hard to see... You had to push it a bit backwards and then pull it downwards, until it springs into place.
... I do acknowledge that in the game it looks clear, so you should have seen at least something.

Yeah; what they have in the game looks like the Apple Disk II's slot, with the latch completely removed.

Hmmm, 1540/1541 needed to be pushed down.

Then with the 1541-II, they adopted the turning latch/lever; which is what I used to have.

I kinda agree with some people here. Looks almost TOO similar to Papers please.
And without any of the people we saw in Papers Please it feels too disconnected. I have no reason to care about any of those messages. Feel ... detached.

If you look for instance at the CBM8050 dual floppy fileserver you can't clearly see a mechanic, just a slot... That mechanic is there, but it's hard to see... You had to push it a bit backwards and then pull it downwards, until it springs into place.
... I do acknowledge that in the game it looks clear, so you should have seen at least something.

Yeah; what they have in the game looks like the Apple Disk II's slot, with the latch completely removed.

Hmmm, 1540/1541 needed to be pushed down.

Then with the 1541-II, they adopted the turning latch/lever; which is what I used to have.

Not sure if the 1541 was also produced with the "Push-Down" mechanism that turned down towards the pusher, but my 1541 (was maybe a 1541C?) had already a latch that turned sideways down. Can't give you a pic, because it broke down some years earlier (maybe 20?), so I now just have a 1541-II at hands.


Last edited by logge on 14 Dec 2017 at 12:00 pm UTC

Not sure if the 1541 was also produced with the "Push-Down" mechanism that turned down towards the pusher, but my 1541 (was maybe a 1541C?) had already a latch that turned sideways down. Can't give you a pic, because it broke down some years earlier (maybe 20?), so I now just have a 1541-II at hands.

The first 1541 had a push down mechanism.
The 1541 is a direct descendant of the 1540. The 1540 was the first with a crappy serialised IEEE-488 bus, intended for the VIC-20. The VIC-20 run at a pace of about 10% higher than a C64, so they introduced the 1541 with a lower serial bus clocking speed.
Personally I only had a CBM8050 which had 2 dedicated 6502 class cpus: 1 (a 6501) was dedicated to reading, writing and stepping the head (multiple steps per track, they used 77 tracks on a single density that could store 1MB of data more reliable than the HD floppies on a pc), and programming the writing clock frequency (lower write speeds at the center to de constant density).
THe other (6502) was dedicated to fileserving, and could also run applications from floppy. They had a shared memory mailbox system to coordinate communications.
The 1540/1541 used about the same code, but running on a single cpu.
The 1540/1541 was the first to use PC floppy drive mechanics I think... Because at that time there really was no "buy a floppy drive". A 3" hardcase floppy was even more common than 3.5" for instance.
Harddisks at that time adhered to the SMD standard... Of which I had 3... My SUN 2 had a 19" 4U high harddisk :-). I even played with an DEC RM05 replaceable harddisk once to write drivers for minix.
How did I get here? My god... I am so old I am getting senile. Sorry.