Good things come to those who wait, like a fine Wine. Today the Wine team has officially release the next stable version Wine 3.0 [Official Site].
After around a year of development during the 2.x cycle, Wine 3.0 brings in some major changes towards better game and application support for those of you wanting to run Windows-only stuff on Linux. It's nowhere near perfect, but it's a massive advancement for the Wine project and provides a good base for them to continue onwards.
Here's a few highlights from the mailing list announcement sent today:
- Direct3D 10 and 11 support which includes:
- Compute shaders
- Hull and domain (tessellation) shaders
- A large number of shader model 4 and 5 shader instructions
- Cube-map arrays
- Mip-map generation
- And lots more
- The Direct3D command stream, which is disabled by default.
- Support for OpenGL core contexts in Direct3D is improved. If you're using Mesa, you shouldn't need to set the "MaxVersionGL" registry key to enable Direct3D 10 and 11 support.
- The Android graphics driver.
- Improved DirectWrite and Direct2D support.
There's absolutely tons, that's me just cherry-picking random bits that I found quite interesting from this big release. For the next development cycle, we can look forward to things like Direct3D 12 and Vulkan support, OpenGL ES support to enable Direct3D on Android and plenty more.
You can find the brief official announcement here.
Quoting: LeopardX will be with us for a long time , i'm sure.
Reasons : Nvidia ( because of majority )
Not mature
Current games needs a mid-solution , Xwayland
It will be, but for a different reason. Because some games are tied to X. And as you said, XWayland will address those.
And Nvidia's majority will diminish, at the rate of people upgrading their GPUs, which is in several years.
Last edited by Shmerl on 18 January 2018 at 6:38 pm UTC
Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: LeopardX will be with us for a long time , i'm sure.
Reasons : Nvidia ( because of majority )
Not mature
Current games needs a mid-solution , Xwayland
It will be, but for a different reason. Because some games are tied to X. And as you said, XWayland will address those.
And Nvidia's majority will diminish, at the rate of people upgrading their GPUs, which is in several years.
For achieving that ; AMD needs better watt per performance which i don't think it will happen any time in five years.
Nvidia has a massive R&D budget for gpu's while AMD hasn't. They simply lagging one generation behind on watt-performance.
Last edited by Leopard on 18 January 2018 at 6:43 pm UTC
Quoting: mrdeathjrAnd now with Wine 3.0
View video on youtube.com
How in the hell you can play longer than 1 hour without crashing. Every time I load Race Driver in Wine, it always runs out of virtual memory and crashes during the first race.
I will try it again with 3.0 and hope this issue is resolved. GRID 1 is one of my fav racing games.
Quoting: coolboberQuoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI wonder when We gonna see this included in Crossover..Sometimes I wonder why people pays so much money for a computer game, but not for such a usefull tool like crossover. Crossover 17 is great, I can't wait for next release.
I think its because when you buy a game its yours forever despite what the eula may say. With cross over you have to pay a fee every year to get support.
Quoting: LeopardFor achieving that ; AMD needs better watt per performance which i don't think it will happen any time in five years.
I expect it to happen in 2019, with release of 7nm GPUs. But we'll have to wait and see of course.
Last edited by Shmerl on 18 January 2018 at 7:28 pm UTC
Quoting: Whitewolfe80Yes... but you can buy crossover without support - just a one version.Quoting: coolboberQuoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI wonder when We gonna see this included in Crossover..Sometimes I wonder why people pays so much money for a computer game, but not for such a usefull tool like crossover. Crossover 17 is great, I can't wait for next release.
I think its because when you buy a game its yours forever despite what the eula may say. With cross over you have to pay a fee every year to get support.
Quoting: Avehicle7887How in the hell you can play longer than 1 hour without crashing.
Every time I load Race Driver in Wine, it always runs out of virtual memory and crashes during the first race.
I will try it again with 3.0 and hope this issue is resolved. GRID 1 is one of my fav racing games.
Yeah very impressive, in before times wine shows more instability
This is a one reason because make large tests, because in large tests can see stability, mouse, keyboard and other issues
This wine version is big in stability, csmt (vanilla csmt is definitive implementation, staging implementation is different in various things) and others
^_^
Last edited by mrdeathjr on 18 January 2018 at 8:11 pm UTC
Quoting: LeopardX will be with us for a long time , i'm sure.
Reasons : Nvidia ( because of majority )
Not mature
Current games needs a mid-solution , Xwayland
Yeah for wayland most big obstacle is games quantity inertia directly represented in this simple question:
Wayland runs all games runs in X and have support of games developers ?
Quoting: LeopardFor achieving that ; AMD needs better watt per performance which i don't think it will happen any time in five years.
Nvidia has a massive R&D budget for gpu's while AMD hasn't. They simply lagging one generation behind on watt-performance.
RTG stay in serious reconstruction after raja leaves
However as your said them needs seriously create new gpu arquitecture (or improve in many ways your actual arquitecture)
Nvidia in consume is much better (one reason buyed GTX 1050) without forget games compatibility (much better in nvidia) and support from games devs
^_^
Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: LeopardFor achieving that ; AMD needs better watt per performance which i don't think it will happen any time in five years.
I expect it to happen in 2019, with release of 7nm GPUs. But we'll have to wait and see of course.
That's a problem in itself. Had they been able to release GPUs with a better power consumption this very year, I would have switched to AMD right away. But knowing nothing's going to happen this year, I'll just stick to my GTX 1050Ti for another year or two.
Oh and there is the rather poor Vulkan optimization at the time, I hope they'll get it sorted, too. But I'd say this is not as urgent as getting the hardware right.
Quoting: coolboberQuoting: Whitewolfe80Yes... but you can buy crossover without support - just a one version.Quoting: coolboberQuoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI wonder when We gonna see this included in Crossover..Sometimes I wonder why people pays so much money for a computer game, but not for such a usefull tool like crossover. Crossover 17 is great, I can't wait for next release.
I think its because when you buy a game its yours forever despite what the eula may say. With cross over you have to pay a fee every year to get support.
Or you could get it free its called Wine and just diy your games and applications
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