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Heroes of Hammerwatch [Steam], the rogue-lite action-adventure from Crackshell is now officially out and it looks good, sadly though the Linux version is Steam only.

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Originally, the GOG store actually showed it was coming to Linux, but at release it's Windows-only on GOG. Speaking on Steam, the developer stated this is due to GOG Galaxy not being on Linux:

Sorry, their Galaxy system and SDK doesn't support Linux so in the end it seems like its not coming on GOG until we get that sorted

Their previous Hammerwatch game has a Linux build on GOG, but that was due to it having Direct IP connect multiplayer, whereas it seems they've moved towards using services from GOG and Steam to help handle multiplayer. This is obviously a repeating problem for Linux gamers, with multiple games not having a Linux build on GOG due to this.

About the game:

Heroes of Hammerwatch is a rogue-lite action-adventure game set in the same universe as Hammerwatch. Encounter endless hordes of enemies, traps, puzzles, secrets and lots of loot, as you battle your way through procedurally generated levels to reach the top of the Forsaken Spire.

A rogue-lite with a lot of persistent progression. You will start each run in Outlook, a town which you can upgrade to grant your heroes with various enhancements that will further help you in your quest. The heroes themselves will also remain persistent, you can even bring your own heroes to your friends game!

We've reached out to the developer for review keys, hopefully we will be able to tell you what we think soon. So far, it seems users on Steam are quite liking it.

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Shmerl Mar 2, 2018
Quoting: LeopardTheir vision is same.

I don't really know what CDPR vision is, they are completely non talkative and never explain their reasoning (unlike GOG employees who gave AMAs and actually answer questions). Did you see any CDPR developers here? You can find GOG developers here on GamingOnLinux.


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jens Mar 2, 2018
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Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: jensMy guess is that they deliberately decided that the very few Linux GOG only users are simply not worth the effort (which would be a professional business decision). Though just assuming here, thus these are my thoughts only.

Treating GOG Linux users as second class citizens isn't something I consider professional either, so your hypothetical scenario only highlights my point.
Please come down from your elitism. Linux GOG only users are a small minority of a small minority. Doing lots of extra effort for this very small number of potential customers would be nothing but a courtesy.
scaine Mar 2, 2018
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Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: NarvarthThese people just forget that DRM-free games on GOG are also DRM-free on Steam...

Nope. You forget that nothing is DRM-free on Steam.

What? That's not true. Plenty of DRM-free games on Steam [1]. Unless you're being all Stallman-like and saying "goddamit, I want to use a web page to download my game... not a client". If you are, then <sigh>. You're entitled to your opinion, but you'll never convince me that you're on the right path. Remember - I don't want the hassle of "web download, make executable, run dubious executable, never gets updated". I want that client, to take the pain away. Then, I'm only doing that shit ONCE. Even Itch realise this. Only GOG don't get it.
Leopard Mar 2, 2018
Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: LeopardTheir vision is same.

I don't really know what CDPR vision is, they are completely non talkative and never explain their reasoning (unlike GOG employees who gave AMAs and actually answer questions). Did you see any CDPR developers here? You can find GOG developers here on GamingOnLinux.

What?

So i need to see developers before guessing their visions by depending their previous actions. I saw GOG devs on here , Reddit and BoilingSteam. They were very strict with Galaxy.

So , answer honestly please.

Did you see any MS dev on here and there? Yet you will say MS is a scumbag company , right?

Did you see any Valve dev on here and there? Yet you will say Valve is DRM'ed evil , right?

So ignore this simple fact while you can , until the very end Shmerl. Being a Polish person is not automatically means being an advocate of GOG , CDPR. Drop it. Please.
scaine Mar 2, 2018
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Quoting: LeopardSo ignore this simple fact while you can , until the very end Shmerl. Being a Polish person is not automatically means being an advocate of GOG , CDPR. Drop it. Please.

C'mon, no need for the attitude. Everyone is a friend here and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Shmerl Mar 2, 2018
Quoting: jensPlease come down from your elitism.

Please come down from your comfortable position of using the incumbent, and don't think that if you are comfortable with the situation, everyone else should be. Apply the same logic to yourself as a Linux user, except from the indifferent Windows user's perspective. We hear this narrative all the time, so be considerate and don't use it.


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Hamish Mar 2, 2018
Quoting: KimyrielleFor no other reason than because they decided not to refuse doing business with those publishers that insist on putting DRM in their games.
Which happens to include Valve themselves with Steamworks, a DRM platform they developed and encourage game developers to actively use in their games. My issue with Valve is not so much that they tolerate DRM on Steam, but that they themselves actively create and promote it through Steamworks.

Quoting: jensPlease come down from your elitism. Linux GOG only users are a small minority of a small minority. Doing lots of extra effort for this very small number of potential customers would be nothing but a courtesy.
The same is true for the entire Linux gaming market. Shall we all just close up shop then?


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jens Mar 2, 2018
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Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: jensPlease come down from your elitism.

Please come down from your comfortable position of using the incumbent, and don't think that if you are comfortable with the situation, everyone else should be.

I'm not doing this, I'm happy for every GOG user that is happy with GOG. Enjoy your games!
What I don't like is the constant Valve/Steam bashing from the GOG fraction that feels the need to highlight that DRM-free is the only allowed religion. Have you seen lately how many threads here on GOL about Valve/Steam/Feral got hijacked and turned into a bashing Valve session?


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Leopard Mar 2, 2018
Quoting: scaine
Quoting: LeopardSo ignore this simple fact while you can , until the very end Shmerl. Being a Polish person is not automatically means being an advocate of GOG , CDPR. Drop it. Please.

C'mon, no need for the attitude. Everyone is a friend here and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I don't get his attitude here instead of mine.

( Mine is much more a reaction to it)

He likes these:

- Nvidia shitposting , AMD praising. Even ignoring that Nvidia was the only successful provider on Linux for a long time.

- Steam shitposting , GOG praising. Despite he is only getting these games on GOG still thanks to Steam on Linux launch and SteamMachines push.

- Dev blaming , rather than the system won't give them chance to use equal tools on Linux.

There is no need for being ungreatful to some companies even if you don't like them. Because they did so much good things on Linux and still keep doing.
Hamish Mar 2, 2018
Quoting: jensHave you seen lately how many threads here on GOL about Valve/Steam/Feral got hijacked and turned into a bashing Steam session?
And this is far from the first thread to turn into a "GOG.com bashing session", as you would put it. It seems to be the GOL equivalent to the standard Linux distribution or text editor holy wars.

Here is my question though; GOG.com insists that Galaxy is completely optional, so how do Crackshell handle the Windows version of the game on GOG.com? Surely they must have a Windows version on GOG.com that does not have multiplayer available in order to have a non-Galaxy standalone installer?
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