AMD has revealed today that the pre-orders for the 2nd generation AMD Ryzen desktop processors are now available along with their specifications.
What's also interesting, is that all processors across this range will now come with their AMD Wraith coolers, which are supposed to be quieter and offer better thermal performance and airflow over their earlier coolers. I can certainly attest to how terrible the coolers were on the FX series, extremely noisy and not amazing at actually keeping them cool, so this is a good move by AMD.
Here's the specifications and models that will be on offer from the information AMD just email us:
- Ryzen 7 2700X with 8 cores 16 threads, a 3.7 GHz base speed with a 4.3 GHz boost, a 20MB "Smart Prefetch Cache" with a 105W TDP plus the Wraith Prism (LED) cooler. It will be priced around $329.
- Ryzen 7 2700 also has 8 cores 16 threads, a 3.2 GHz base speed with a 4.1 GHz boost, a 20MB "Smart Prefetch Cache" with a 65W TDP plus the Wraith Spire (LED) cooler. It will be priced around $299.
- Ryzen 5 2600X with 6 cores and 12 threads, a 3.6 GHz base speed with a 4.2 GHz boost, a 19MB "Smart Prefetch Cache" with a 95W TDP plus the Wraith Spire cooler. It will be priced around $229.
- Ryzen 5 2600 also has 6 cores and 12 threads, a 3.4 GHz base speed with a 3.9 GHz boost, a 19MB "Smart Prefetch Cache" with a 65W TDP plus the Wraith Stealth cooler. The cheapest at around $199.
They will be using the new X470 chipset, so new motherboards will be launching alongside these new processors. AMD said in their press email that existing 300-series motherboards will also be compatible with a BIOS update. Some of the older series motherboards come shipped with this update, so look out for "Ryzen Desktop 2000 Ready" if you're not waiting on the X470 chipset.
It's quite likely my next CPU will be AMD, considering the price along with the many cores they're a damn good option now. It's going to be interesting to see how they perform on Linux.
Look to your favourite online store for the pre-order, if that's your thing. General availablity is expected around April 19th.
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I considered waiting for this, when I bought my Ryzen a few weeks ago. However, everything I read suggested that improvements and performance boosts would not be very significant.
So, I figured that I might as well buy a "zen-cpu", skip the "zen+" generation and then look at possibly upgrading to a "zen2" cpu in 2019 or 2020.
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So, I figured that I might as well buy a "zen-cpu", skip the "zen+" generation and then look at possibly upgrading to a "zen2" cpu in 2019 or 2020.
Last edited by Feist on 13 April 2018 at 2:46 pm UTC
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I considered waiting for this, when I bought my Ryzen a few weeks ago. However, everything I read suggested that improvements and performance boosts would not be very significant.
So, I figured that I might as well buy a "zen-cpu", skip the "zen+" generation and then look at possibly upgrading to a "zen2" cpu in 2019 or 2020.
These all are SKU'd to sound as if they are Zen 2 what with the 2700X name instead of 1700X etc; i would have though a Zen+ mid gen refresh would be say 1750X or something like that. SO im confused as to if this is Zen+ or Zen2
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I hope they fixed this mess: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683
It would be the main reason for me to switch from Ryzen 7 1700X to 2700X.
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It would be the main reason for me to switch from Ryzen 7 1700X to 2700X.
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Arehandoro Apr 13, 2018
Could someone please explain me in plain English why the difference in W from the normal models to the X ones? From my ignorant point of view 30/40 extra Watios per model to get an extra boost of 0.2Ghz doesn't make sense at all, specially in the bill, unless there is something else to them?
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Could someone please explain me in plain English why the difference in W from the normal models to the X ones?
I think X ones come with higher frequency by default, and also they have more room for overclocking itself. There might be more differences.
Last edited by Shmerl on 13 April 2018 at 2:59 pm UTC
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So im confused as to if this is Zen+ or Zen2
Zen+ is Ryzen 2. Zen 2 is going to be in the future. It is rather confusing.
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Arehandoro Apr 13, 2018
Could someone please explain me in plain English why the difference in W from the normal models to the X ones?
I think X ones come with higher frequency by default, and also they have more room for overclocking itself. There might be more differences.
I see, thanks :)
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cRaZy-bisCuiT Apr 13, 2018
So this is still NOT on 7 nm? Will the next GPUs be? When will we get Raven Ridge 7 nm GPU + CPU? Waiting for this, I guess I won't need my RX 480 then anymore, even though I might lack a bit of performance. :D
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This is CPU, and it's using 12nm.
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Avehicle7887 Apr 13, 2018
I'm very happy with 1700X so I'm set for a few more years to come. For this release I'm looking at that Wraith Prism Cooler, it shall replace the ugly Coolermaster block I got last year.
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I would have preferred actually if they sold the cooler separately like before. I already have a massive Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 . Selling both at once is inflexible.
Last edited by Shmerl on 13 April 2018 at 5:20 pm UTC
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Not about AMD, but I just saw a very good video on how mounting radiators and fans blow direction affects cooling (the idea shouldn't depend on the CPU type):
View video on youtube.com
Looks like for open air shroud GPUs, it's good to use liquid cooling for the CPU with radiators set at the intake. I expected it, but nice to see some confirmation.
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View video on youtube.com
Looks like for open air shroud GPUs, it's good to use liquid cooling for the CPU with radiators set at the intake. I expected it, but nice to see some confirmation.
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Viktualius Apr 13, 2018
Could someone please explain me in plain English why the difference in W from the normal models to the X ones? From my ignorant point of view 30/40 extra Watios per model to get an extra boost of 0.2Ghz doesn't make sense at all, specially in the bill, unless there is something else to them?
TDP (Thermal Design Power) is not the amount of Watts its taking in, it's the thermal loss you have to get rid of by cooling. And as the TDP will rise exponential to the clock speed (I think... don't quote me on that... ;) ...), it explains the big steps in Watt.
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<<--- party pooper Anyone know the status of meltdown v1 V2 and spectre? is it fixed to the hardware level with these new CPU?
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Stupendous Man Apr 13, 2018
I'm considering buying a Ryzen 1600 or 1700 very soon, would it be worthwhile waiting a few months for a possible price drop?
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<<--- party pooper Anyone know the status of meltdown v1 V2 and spectre? is it fixed to the hardware level with these new CPU?
AMD was not affected by V3/meltdown.
V1/Spectre is mitigated in the OS (RETPOLINE)
V2/Spectre is hard to exploit on AMD and fixed in microcode (https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/security-updates)
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<<--- party pooper Anyone know the status of meltdown v1 V2 and spectre? is it fixed to the hardware level with these new CPU?
AMD was not affected by V3/meltdown.
V1/Spectre is mitigated in the OS (RETPOLINE)
V2/Spectre is hard to exploit on AMD and fixed in microcode (https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/security-updates)
thanks for the info
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The Ryzen 7 2700X would be wonderful but a 40W TDP jump over the Ryzen 7 2700 for +500MHz base clock...? Tough choice. I really would like 3.7 instead of 3.2 GHz.
I wonder if it's worth waiting for more motherboard announcements. I wouldn't want some really nice one to release like 3 months after I rebuild. A year later, sure, I'm not going to wait that long, but a couple months would kinda bite.
I wonder if it's worth waiting for more motherboard announcements. I wouldn't want some really nice one to release like 3 months after I rebuild. A year later, sure, I'm not going to wait that long, but a couple months would kinda bite.
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So this is still NOT on 7 nm? Will the next GPUs be? When will we get Raven Ridge 7 nm GPU + CPU? Waiting for this, I guess I won't need my RX 480 then anymore, even though I might lack a bit of performance. :D
This will be main cpu battle of our age in 2019
Intel 10nm vs AMD 7nm
2019 could be great year for upgrade
In my case need who offer more performance in quad core cpu (dual core + ht dont count as quad core)
^_^
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<<--- party pooper Anyone know the status of meltdown v1 V2 and spectre? is it fixed to the hardware level with these new CPU?
Meltdown was never a problem with AMD CPUs, only Spectre variants 1 and 2 were a problem with AMD. Spectre v2 is difficult to exploit on Zen, and v1 is "fixed" in software with retpolines. AMD has also pushed out firmware updates. There are no silicon updates yet, but AMD is probably fine.
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