It seems Valve are quite serious about getting back into making games, as Campo Santo the developer of Firewatch has joined them.
Writing on their official website in a post, the team from Campo Santo confirmed that the news is true. They said they found that people at Valve share the same values that they do, so it became an "obvious match". Expanding on that, they said this:
We had a series of long conversations with the people at Valve and everyone shared the satisfaction we take in working with people whose talents dwarf our own to make things we never thought possible. Both sides spoke about our values and how, when you get right down to it, we, as human beings, are hard-limited by the time we have left when it comes to making the things we care about and believe in. They asked us if we’d all be interested in coming up to Bellevue and doing that there and we said yes.
They confirmed that their next game, In the Valley of Gods, is still being made and so it's now a Valve game.
Personally, I think it's great that Valve are bringing in some obviously talented folk to make games. Valve have a lot of resources and contacts that can help for sure. It should also mean they have good Linux support, since Valve are still committed to Linux gaming.
Since it will now be a Valve game, it will be interesting to see if In the Valley of Gods will make it to GOG. I wouldn't expect it to now, but maybe Valve will surprise us there.
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Goodbye DRM-free releases like Firewatch?
Last edited by Shmerl on 22 April 2018 at 6:33 pm UTC
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GustyGhost Apr 22, 2018
Good bye DRM-free releases like Firewatch?
They obviously don't share all of the same values.
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Doc Angelo Apr 22, 2018
Valve can still release the game on Steam without DRM protection. Half-Life 2 is DRM free for example.
Last edited by Doc Angelo on 22 April 2018 at 3:30 pm UTC
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Valve can still release the game on Steam without DRM protection. Half-Life 2 is DRM free for example.
Steam itself is DRM.
Albeit it's the only one I accept and can live with, it is, per definition, DRM.
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Doc Angelo Apr 22, 2018
Steam itself is DRM.
Albeit it's the only one I accept and can live with, it is, per definition, DRM.
I don't think so. But maybe we have different definitions of what DRM means.
The Steam client is the very same as GOG Galaxy or the GOG website. You can buy and download games. Valve has their own DRM implementation (part of Steamworks), but it's completely optional. As a developer or publisher, you don't have to use the DRM tools provided by Steam, or your own DRM. You can just not use any DRM and still have your game on Steam.
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
Last edited by Doc Angelo on 22 April 2018 at 3:52 pm UTC
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Good thing Firewatch was so self-contained then, I'd hate if they were planning on it being a trilogy. :P
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UltraAltesBrot Apr 22, 2018
Steam itself is DRM.
Albeit it's the only one I accept and can live with, it is, per definition, DRM.
I don't think so. But maybe we have different definitions of what DRM means.
The Steam client is the very same as GOG Galaxy or the GOG website. You can buy and download games. Valve has their own DRM implementation (part of Steamworks), but it's completely optional. As a developer or publisher, you don't have to use the DRM tools provided by Steam, or your own DRM. You can just not use any DRM and still have your game on Steam.
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
Don't even try to argue with fanatics, it won't lead anywhere.
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Comandante Ñoñardo Apr 22, 2018
I don't think so. But maybe we have different definitions of what DRM means.
The Steam client is the very same as GOG Galaxy or the GOG website.
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
No! GOG Galaxy client is OPTIONAL for to download the games, Steam client is MANDATORY for to download the games...
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No! GOG Galaxy client is OPTIONAL for to download the games, Steam client is MANDATORY for to download the games...
That is entirely unrelated to DRMs
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Doc Angelo Apr 22, 2018
No! GOG Galaxy client is OPTIONAL for to download the games, Steam client is MANDATORY for to download the games...
This is correct. I just included Galaxy because it's an available option. I didn't mean to compare Galaxy directly to Steam in that regard, because it doesn't really have to do with DRM on the games.
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Steam itself is DRM.
Albeit it's the only one I accept and can live with, it is, per definition, DRM.
I don't think so. But maybe we have different definitions of what DRM means.
The Steam client is the very same as GOG Galaxy or the GOG website. You can buy and download games. Valve has their own DRM implementation (part of Steamworks), but it's completely optional. As a developer or publisher, you don't have to use the DRM tools provided by Steam, or your own DRM. You can just not use any DRM and still have your game on Steam.
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
Don't even try to argue with fanatics, it won't lead anywhere.
Wow, thanks a lot for that one. Didn't know I was a fanatic until now. You opened my eyes :)
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Isn't that the developer who abused DMCA?The DMCA needs some abusing.
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Wait, so you're saying that software having an installer == DRM?I don't think so. But maybe we have different definitions of what DRM means.
The Steam client is the very same as GOG Galaxy or the GOG website.
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
No! GOG Galaxy client is OPTIONAL for to download the games, Steam client is MANDATORY for to download the games...
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GOG Galaxy client is OPTIONAL for to download the games, Steam client is MANDATORY for to download the games...In that case, you might as well say the GOG website is DRM.
(Sorry about the misattribution, Maelrane. Don't know how that happened.)
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In that case, you might as well say the GOG website is DRM.
Can you please fix your quote? I never wrote that! Thanks.
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Comandante Ñoñardo Apr 22, 2018
Wait, so you're saying that software having an installer == DRM?
I never said that..
GOG Galaxy client is OPTIONAL for to download the games, Steam client is MANDATORY for to download the games...In that case, you might as well say the GOG website is DRM.
No. Because once you have downloaded the game installers from the website, you can copy them to an external drive and install them on as many machines you have at home without the need of an internet connection on each machine, and that's why they are DRMFREE...
It is impossible to do the same with Steam games..
Can you move these games to another of your machines using an external HDD?
Last edited by Comandante Ñoñardo on 22 April 2018 at 5:29 pm UTC
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Wow, thanks a lot for that one. Didn't know I was a fanatic until now. You opened my eyes :)
I don't think that you are a fanatic and I guess this was more a general statement than directed to you.
People here are sadly recently immediately on the edge as soon as the subjects Steam/Valvue or DRM are touched. (I guess I had my share in it too.) Impartial opinions aren't that easy to find anymore.
Edit: Wrong words.
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Doc Angelo Apr 22, 2018
Can you move these games to another of your machines using an external HDD?
Yes, you can.
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