Rise of the Tomb Raider for Linux to release tomorrow, April 19th

I will call it a success if I will be able to see the loading screen with my setup.
Probably I will need to upgrade my driver first.

Shame that it looks like we'll be requiring a beta driver to play it :-\

Last time I ran a game (probably SoM) from Feral it worked well with an older driver than "needed", maybe they just want to be sure.

I agree SteamPlay is bad for Feral. But it's good for new users coming from Windows, they don't have to buy all their games again. Anyway, I would like to see an option to buy an optional separated Linux-only version to show my interest in Linux games as well as dedication to the platform and to make sure I will 100% support the Linux publisher/developer.

For Feral games, you always can buy at their store, not matter what you own somewhere else.

This was quicker than I thought. Don't think I will manage to get everything to 100% in TR 2013 first.

I got my key in humble monthly in october. I have not generated or claimed the steam key yet so I've got no idea how it is counted.

Feral, if You take your self seriously

What a bad way to address people.

1. Baba Yaga is a story DLC available in-game. It's ok, but doesn't include actual Baba Yaga, so I was disappointed. I suspect it was cut from the base game and sold separately.

So it actually adds stuff into the middle of the game? Damn, that means I want it, if only to potentially get the "full experience", story-wise.

But the story is still written by Rhianna Pratchet and it's even worse than in TR 2013.

When I saw her name in the credits for Tomb Raider 2013, I was a bit shocked. Considering who her father was, I expected her to write, well, a better story.

The story of Tomb Raider 2013 had me constantly being annoyed at Lara for not getting the bloody obvious. And for nor killing Mathias quickly with her bow out of stealth, on any of the three dozens of times she would have been perfectly able to. Most of the characters in the game felt flat as cardboard, too.

Don't think I will manage to get everything to 100% in TR 2013 first.

I ended the game with 88% done. I then went back and collected a few easy GPS caches, killing a few deer. I must be at like 89% now. But I'm not going to go back and do 100%.

I mean, I do have an addictive personality, and getting the numbers up does appeal to me. I put 150 hours in Dragon Age: Inquisition and 105 hours into Mass Effect: Andromeda because of that. But there I at least got story-bits and stuff out of it (as watered down as it was). And I still hated myself for doing it. As satisfying as seeing the numbers go up is, and as okay a gameplay loop it is, Tomb Raider just didn't make me care enough about the world and the characters.

On other topic:
Feral, if You take your self seriously and if You really have the publishing rights of these games for Linux and Mac, GET RID of STEAMPLAY..
Linux and Mac versions of Windows games must have a different store page and a different price when the Linux/Mac publisher is different than the windows publisher.

You seem quite sure of this. But how much less appealing would it be for a gamer to switch to Linux from Windows if they had to buy again all of their Linux-supporting AAA games ported by companies like Aspyr and Feral, especially if the Linux ports were more expensive? And if it's not relatively painless for them to switch, how likely is it that they'd be here to buy the next game that gets ported?

Would these roadblocks hurt the porters' sales less than what they would win by possibly getting a few Linux-using cheapskates to ignore a key reseller or something? Assuming some of those people wouldn't just buy the much cheaper Windows key anyway and dual boot to play it.

It's in any porting company's best interests to make sure their target platform is attractive to customers, and things like Steamplay might actually be useful here. Every new Linux gamer is a potential customer.

Oh no, I won't be able to play with my good old GeForce 560 Ti 448 cores :/
I feel like I want to buy a new card. But my brain says no... but... Arghhhh, dammit !

But how much less appealing would it be for a gamer to switch to Linux from Windows if they had to buy again all of their Linux-supporting AAA games ported by companies like Aspyr and Feral, especially if the Linux ports were more expensive?

Very this, and if you want to support the porting company buy from their store! It's even more relevant if you live in a country that has regional discounts like mine (Russia). The price here is usually 60-80% lower than the base one (in US dollars). It's higher for the AAA titles but low enough to justify a purchase. Nevertheless, I bought from the Feral Store because these big and nice titles only get ported once in a few months and I wholeheartedly support the Feral's work. It's absolutely essential for promoting Linux and FOSS despite the games themselves being proprietary. The price was pretty high, about 2 days wage for me, but you know what? That was the best money spent in a while. And I'm considering doing the same for LiS because buying it for mere $7 (of which Steam gets 30% and the original developer gets a cut) is just wrong.

If you don't have starving children and family to feed, at least consider paying to Feral directly, they deserve each and every penny. And you also invest in the Linux gaming future.


Last edited by rkfg on 18 Apr 2018 at 9:26 pm UTC

Minimum
OS: Ubuntu 17.10
Processor: Intel Core i3-4130T or AMD equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: 2GB AMD R9 285 (GCN 3rd Gen and above), 2GB Nvidia GTX 680 or better
Storage: 28 GB available space

Recommended
OS: Ubuntu 17.10
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K
Memory: 12 GB RAM <<<<<<<
Graphics: Nvidia GTX 980Ti
Storage: 28 GB available space

Damn, I seriously need to upgrade my PC or at least graphic card & RAM.

Just put 32 Gb in the damn box and forget about RAM. I did that and never regretted it, I run whatever I want and it just works, games, IDEs, VMs, tons of Chrome tabs, all AT THE SAME TIME and I still have plenty of RAM for /tmp

Just put 32 Gb in the damn box and forget about RAM. I did that and never regretted it, I run whatever I want and it just works, games, IDEs, VMs, tons of Chrome tabs, all AT THE SAME TIME and I still have plenty of RAM for /tmp

Yes. I'll have my manservant fit it for me while I'm out on the estate, riding my bejewelled unicorn.

You seem quite sure of this. But how much less appealing would it be for a gamer to switch to Linux from Windows if they had to buy again all of their Linux-supporting AAA games ported by companies like Aspyr and Feral, especially if the Linux ports were more expensive? And if it's not relatively painless for them to switch, how likely is it that they'd be here to buy the next game that gets ported?

Would these roadblocks hurt the porters' sales less than what they would win by possibly getting a few Linux-using cheapskates to ignore a key reseller or something? Assuming some of those people wouldn't just buy the much cheaper Windows key anyway and dual boot to play it.

It's in any porting company's best interests to make sure their target platform is attractive to customers, and things like Steamplay might actually be useful here. Every new Linux gamer is a potential customer.

I repeat: Steamplay is the enemy of the Linux gaming..

I agree SteamPlay is bad for Feral. But it's good for new users coming from Windows, they don't have to buy all their games again.

If you switch to PS4, you need to buy the games again... Why? Because is a different platform...
The PC itself is not a platform; the operative system is the platform: Windows is a platform.. and Linux is a platform.. And OSX too..
Different platforms, different licences.

As I said. Steamplay was OK years ago, when the arrival of the Steam machines and the early days of Steam for Linux as a help for the incursion.... In fact, Steamplay was useful for me in 2015, when I continued playing Deadfall Adventures from Windows XP..

But is the year 2018..
Those who didn't join Steam for Linux then, They will never do it, because there are more and more AAA windows exclusives that will NEVER be ported to Linux...
There are few options now:
Play the Windows game day 1 on Windows..
Play the Windows game day 1 on Linux via wine/dxvk
Or wait YEARS for a wrapped Linux port and play it without paying for it because you already got a windows key.. Steamplay is not helping linux publishers with this..

Anyway, I would like to see an option to buy an optional separated Linux-only version to show my interest in Linux games as well as dedication to the platform and to make sure I will 100% support the Linux publisher/developer.

Me too..
That is way they need to get rid of Steamplay.. Like Bohemia did with ARMA: Cold War Assault. I hope the final release of ARMA III for Linux will have the same treatment.

Feral, if You take your self seriously

What a bad way to address people.

Wasn't the spirit... But it may sounds rude, yeah...

Side effects of the hair recovery treatment, I guess...

Rise of the Tomb Raider is being shown as being available on Steam in our Country (India). However, after purchasing it, I still can't install it since it says its not available on my platform.

Rise of the Tomb Raider is being shown as being available on Steam in our Country (India). However, after purchasing it, I still can't install it since it says its not available on my platform.

Linux depots aren't already available to the public...

If you switch to PS4, you need to buy the games again... Why?

Because console gaming sucks.

But is the year 2018..
Those who didn't join Steam for Linux then, They will never do it, because there are more and more AAA windows exclusives that will NEVER be ported to Linux...

Said the guy who had been using Windows XP in 2015. Do you understand that Linux community is growing and more people switches to Linux every day? That's like saying "there's no point in buying PS4 because there are more and more Switch exclusives that will NEVER be ported to PS4."

I have Ubuntu 16.04. Does it mean that i have to install Ubuntu 17.10 to be able to run the game?

If you switch to PS4, you need to buy the games again... Why? Because is a different platform...
The PC itself is not a platform; the operative system is the platform: Windows is a platform.. and Linux is a platform.. And OSX too..
Different platforms, different licences.

As I said. Steamplay was OK years ago, when the arrival of the Steam machines and the early days of Steam for Linux as a help for the incursion.... In fact, Steamplay was useful for me in 2015, when I continued playing Deadfall Adventures from Windows XP..

But is the year 2018..

You said nothing to counter my arguments. Just as a reminder: you think Steamplay harms Linux porters like Feral and I pointed out that it might not be such an obvious conclusion.


But sure, let's veer off topic: Yes, the console world operates like it has done since the seventies. One of the reasons I never owned a console. I don't like the idea of a gaming appliance with a limited life cycle. Of course it makes sense for corporations to do business this way if they can get away with it. And I do understand why some people enjoy and buy consoles too.

But that has nothing to do with the current discussion. Consoles and PC operating systems are clearly different, and despite attempts like UWP, they're likely to stay that way. Locking down a PC makes it a console, and that means it's not much of a PC anymore.

so i went on my steam app in ubuntu and in my library of games i cant install this game there is no install button??. what gives. this is the official linux date isnt it?

I love Steamplay, however I would like to support porters like Feral in additional ways (donation, subscription on twitch, etc.).

so i went on my steam app in ubuntu and in my library of games i cant install this game there is no install button??. what gives. this is the official linux date isnt it?

Date yes, but apparently not yet the time.