Valve seem to be pretty serious about increasing the security of their services, as it turns out they've been paying hackers for finding flaws.
Using the HackerOne bounty board, Valve has been handing out payments since October last year, but it seems their page only became public earlier this month. If you're interested in helping their security and earning a little while doing so, might be a good place to start.
On top of that, it seems their official Valve Corporation website got a bit of a refresh I noticed recently, but it has since been taken down. I noticed it earlier in the week and posted about it in our Discord Channel, but forgot to post about it here. You can see it using the Wayback Machine, where their about page said this little bit of fun info:
We have some new games in the works, too. A couple have been announced, while others remain top secret.
We know they're working on their new card game, Artifact, plus Campo Santo recently joined them making In the Valley of Gods a Valve game. I am curious to know what these secret games are, since we've known for a while Valve is working on games again, although some of them are VR games. The last full game Valve released was Dota 2, which turns five this July. There was also the free VR experiments "The Lab" from 2016, but who's counting that? It will be very interesting to see Valve get back into the single-player gaming experience once again, but I will stop short of claiming they're working on a third iteration of anything…
Seems there's a lot going on over at Valve at the moment, with a website refresh coming, new games announced while others being kept secret, the Steam UI is due to be updated as well and all their effort in helping to get VR on Linux in good shape too. It's going to be interesting to follow of all this, quite exciting indeed.
Quoting: EikeI've got no idea what you expect from a 64 bit Steam client. It's not like it would make anything faster or better. "Proper"? "Modern"? So what? There's still many games running on 32 bits, you'll need a 32 bit layer for a long time to go.
This is why selling stuff with buzzwords works so great, I guess. :)
32-bit processes can spawn 64-bit processes, or in other words - the 32-bit Steam client can launch 64-bit titles - so there is no limitation in that.
Not having native Wayland support is not something I consider an issue.
There are still lots of users on X and those applications run great via XWayland.
If the client feels sluggish or whatever than it's just because it has some design issues.
And certainly *not* because it's 32-bit or native X application.
Quoting: kfI think you are thinking about Mir, and Mir isn't abandoned either. It's being re-purposed as a Wayland layer.
Quoting: noxThat's absolutely not correct, to what I've read. They tested wayland in their 17.10 release, but they decided (rightfully) that it wasn't ready for a LTS release like 18.04. Deciding that it still needs more time isn't the same thing as abandoning :)
Thanks both of you for setting me straight, not sure where I got the idea Wayland or even Mir were being thrown out, blame it on the moonlight. ;)
Quoting: subQuoting: EikeI've got no idea what you expect from a 64 bit Steam client. It's not like it would make anything faster or better. "Proper"? "Modern"? So what? There's still many games running on 32 bits, you'll need a 32 bit layer for a long time to go.
This is why selling stuff with buzzwords works so great, I guess. :)
32-bit processes can spawn 64-bit processes, or in other words - the 32-bit Steam client can launch 64-bit titles - so there is no limitation in that.
Not having native Wayland support is not something I consider an issue.
There are still lots of users on X and those applications run great via XWayland.
If the client feels sluggish or whatever than it's just because it has some design issues.
And certainly *not* because it's 32-bit or native X application.
For your information there are systems that do not have 32bit layer at all (and they don't need one, to begin with).
I for one, use one of thouse.
Don't really see why are you people even showing up here and arguing that we do not need this.
How the f*ck is that affecting you at all??? I will repeat for the last time: we do not want Valve to drop 32bit, what we want from Valve is to properly support 64bit!
As in: give us 64bit client, so we can play our 64bit games, on a 64bit-only OS.
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Quoting: sbolokanovDon't really see why are you people even showing up here and arguing that we do not need this.
Yeah. So sorry for stating our opinions.
Quoting: sbolokanovHow the f*ck is that affecting you at all???
Human ressources are limited.
There's problems with the Steam client affecting us all.
I'd prefer Valve working on those.
I'm fine with you wanting something else,
but I still fail to see what's the problem with installing a 32 bit layer.
Is it not available for your system?
Is your hard disc full?
Quoting: sbolokanovI will repeat for the last time
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They're not, it's a bounty-reward system. Firefox does the same thing.
Quoting: Dribbleondo> Valve are paying hackersYes, they are.
They're not, it's a bounty-reward system. Firefox does the same thing.
It seems people still get hackers and computer crackers mixed up.
Quoting: sbolokanovFor your information there are systems that do not have 32bit layer at all (and they don't need one, to begin with).
Are you talking about a Linux distribution? What distribution are you using?
Apart from that: I think Steam games should depend on the Steam supplied libs or provide their own. That means of course that you're using old libs when you play old games, which is a security hazard. But then again, almost all games are closed source and proprietary, so you want to run them in a tight jail anyway.
Quoting: noxQuoting: subQuoting: GuestI really hope they will finally release a 64 bit Steam client including Wayland support.
What do we gain from that?
Proper modern support?
Erm really because Wayland is still really shit for gaming dont try to pretend its not, Nvidia still havent embraced wayland and show signs of doing so.
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