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PayPalNews doing the rounds at the moment, is that Valve seem to be tightening their rules concerning games with sexual content.
Here's developer Lupiesoft as an example, who made Mutiny!!, a visual novel with puzzle mini-games, ship combat and it even supports Linux:
We've just received some troubling news today that @steam_games has decided to pull down our titled "Mutiny!!" within 2 weeks for 'reports of pornographic content'. Now those of you who know @Lupiesoft know that we don't put that on Steam, or advertise that content on Steam.
— Lupiesoft (@Lupiesoft) May 18, 2018
The developer continued on from this tweet, to mention that their publisher even met with Valve previously and apparently they didn't have a problem then.
Here's another example from developer HuniePot, who made HuniePop which also supports Linux:
- IMPORTANT NOTICE -
— HunieDev (@HuniePotDev) May 17, 2018
I've received an e-mail from Valve stating that HuniePop violates the rules & guidelines for pornographic content on Steam and will be removed from the store unless the game is updated to remove said content.
Honestly, I don't really get what Valve's doing. There must be some ridiculous business-type decision behind it. Perhaps they think such games are putting off some bigger publishers, as if somehow they think it makes Steam look less attractive? I do always find this odd, that content of a sexual nature is so often frowned upon, when games where you brutally murder people for 90% of the gameplay are often promoted by Valve.
Worth point out, that itch.io is a rather open store, as I understand it developers themselves set the amount they wish to give to itch out of their sales (even if it's nothing) and they even have an open source client which is due a big upgrade soon. As much as I personally like Steam (it is my favourite store), I do wish more games were available on itch.io. Competition is healthy, the bigger players need it to keep them on the straight and narrow and we all know this.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Cyba.Cowboy May 19, 2018
Yet another reason why I don't buy my games from Steam anymore... DRM, censorship (particularly censorship that is hypocritical and doesn't make sense), the lack of interest in (the Linux-based) Steam Machines.
I buy my games from elsewhere these days, particularly GOG.com (who doesn't censor their games, by the way) - if the developers of these games are upset by Valve Software's stance, they should consider the alternatives, such as GOG.com and itch.io.
I buy my games from elsewhere these days, particularly GOG.com (who doesn't censor their games, by the way) - if the developers of these games are upset by Valve Software's stance, they should consider the alternatives, such as GOG.com and itch.io.
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OLucasZanella May 19, 2018
Quoting: x4merThis other article by the same site, took the opportunity to try to play spoiler to Valve's Steam Link app launch. The group says they've been after Valve for 2 years. Maybe this latest article was 'enough is enough' for ValveSo they went from "create an 18+ filter" (which I'm pretty sure already exists, it's just useless if the kid lies, but that isn't Valve's fault) to "yay, censure" in a matter of days?
https://endsexualexploitation.org/articles/steam-announces-release-new-app-makes-easier-access-exploitative-content/
Last edited by OLucasZanella on 19 May 2018 at 12:52 am UTC
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Metallinatus May 19, 2018
Quoting: ElectricPrismOh yeah, I remember that character, she is an adult looking woman with a mature personality and a teacher job.Quoting: LinasQuoting: ElectricPrismAccording to other articles on the web, some of the images in the game, though cartoon have girls that appear to be underage. Underage sex, consensual or not is in most places still illegal.
Oh give me a break. They are cartoons. They can appear to be anything. They are not real. They cannot consent to anything, and you cannot hurt them. They are figments of somebodys imagination.
Nobody is promoting underage sex here. It's all about somebodys subjective perception of what age the cartoon character looks like. You cannot with a straight face say that you can tell the difference between a cartoon depiction of a 16-year old, and a 25-year old.
That's your opinion.
My opinion is that yes there is content in the game that looks like the characters represent girls under the age of 18.
Here is a link to the art in question -- a topless girl (censor blurred out)
Here's a poll I made if people would like share their opinion so we could determine what the community thinks.
Yikes, "totally" underage....
See what happens when we let people who don't even know what they're talking about govern what game is acceptable or not for us? See?
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RussianNeuroMancer May 19, 2018
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TheRiddick May 19, 2018
SEX!?¿ THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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Quoting: anthMutiny!! is on sale on Steam at the moment for much less than it has ever been before. Maybe they're cashing in on the publicity, maybe they're getting something for this while the still can.I just went and bought that and every other linux-game tagged with "Nudity" that was currently on sale on steam. To support the devs and to up the statistics.
And wrote angry tweets ;)
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Quoting: ageresGaben hates anime, that's the reason.
Unless it's about ponies. "Perverted". :O
I'm not interested in these Japanese girl games. But it's ultra sick when someone need to banish something like that. Adult or not: https://minecraft.novaskin.me/skin/5772784549756928/Kyu-Sugardust-Huniepop
How sick is our society today? Do we want conditions like in Iran? Get out on the street!
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Quoting: 1xokI'm not interested in these Japanese girl games. But it's ultra sick when someone need to banish something like that. Adult or not: https://minecraft.novaskin.me/skin/5772784549756928/Kyu-Sugardust-HuniepopThis one should be safe to fap to. But you may want to consult a lawyer just to be on the safe side.
How sick is our society today? Do we want conditions like in Iran? Get out on the street!
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Quoting: LinasThis one should be safe to fap to. But you may want to consult a lawyer just to be on the safe side.Always consult a lawyer before fapping. Especially if you've got a lawyer fetish. You weirdo.
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I don't really get it. its all wrong way imo. Violence seems to be fine, blood, gore, killing.
then some nudity is so bad. If i had children, i think violence would be much much worse than some soft nudity.
but meh we are living in a weird world i guess.
then some nudity is so bad. If i had children, i think violence would be much much worse than some soft nudity.
but meh we are living in a weird world i guess.
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Quoting: XpanderI don't really get it. its all wrong way imo. Violence seems to be fine, blood, gore, killing.Sex has been involved in all deaths that have happened. Violence has only been involved in some deaths that have happened. Therefore sex is more dangerous than violence and should thus be kept out of sight and out of mind as much as possible.
then some nudity is so bad. If i had children, i think violence would be much much worse than some soft nudity.
but meh we are living in a weird world i guess.
(The joke is that sex is required for people to exist and therefore for there to be death there has to have been sex.)
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Quoting: XpanderI don't really get it. its all wrong way imo. Violence seems to be fine, blood, gore, killing.
Not in Germany. By the way: Thanks again for gifting me L4D2. ;)
Do you remember? L4D2 (uncut) and some other Games like Dying Light are Court seized in Germany until today. I can't buy them normally on Steam. Also I can't buy a Game like Attentat 1942 in Germany without tricks.
Every country has maybe its idiosyncrasies. And the censors are pursuing their targets with an uncanny energy when it comes to computer games. At some point you just don't feel like it anymore and take it. After all, we all have other things to do in life. But it is a very worrying development.
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Quoting: SamsaiI'm usually too dumb for jokes, but properly explained ones always make me roflmao so hard!Quoting: XpanderI don't really get it. its all wrong way imo. Violence seems to be fine, blood, gore, killing.Sex has been involved in all deaths that have happened. Violence has only been involved in some deaths that have happened. Therefore sex is more dangerous than violence and should thus be kept out of sight and out of mind as much as possible.
then some nudity is so bad. If i had children, i think violence would be much much worse than some soft nudity.
but meh we are living in a weird world i guess.
(The joke is that sex is required for people to exist and therefore for there to be death there has to have been sex.)
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Quoting: TheRiddickSEX!?¿ THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!I believe that's exactly what they did and was so horrified in the process that they banned everything that might look as a child.
On a positive note, the overpuritanic times are always followed by sexual revolutions. The pendulum always swings back, it's a universal law.
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Wondering what the source is for this drivel. Is someone leaning on Valve specifically or is it a broader law and we can expect itch and GOG to run for the hills soon enough.
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It's because pedophilia is a huge problem right now...world wide. Did you see the news about the bishops in Chile? They all resigned over sex abuse. Maybe your not paying attention...There is an elite pedophilia ring that traffics children for sex and then engages in organ harvesting. It's a dark, dark time...and we better wake up. I support valves decision to eliminate games that depict underage girls or boys engaging in sexual acts. Maybe I'm old fashioned. Witcher and GTA do not have what look to be underage girls having sexual relations...IMO.
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Quoting: WarpigIt's because pedophilia is a huge problem right now...world wide. Did you see the news about the bishops in Chile? They all resigned over sex abuse. Maybe your not paying attention...There is an elite pedophilia ring that traffics children for sex and then engages in organ harvesting. It's a dark, dark time...and we better wake up. I support valves decision to eliminate games that depict underage girls or boys engaging in sexual acts. Maybe I'm old fashioned. Witcher and GTA do not have what look to be underage girls having sexual relations...IMO.Not sure if you are serious or not? How is pedophilia any bigger problem right now than it was like 20 years ago? And how are Valves actions going to solve any of that?
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Children abuse doesn't happen in the Internet or in games. It happens in real life and most of the time among relatives. But who cares, it's much easier to ban words and throw people in jail for illegal pixels and lines. Especially when the society agrees that these pixels "encourage" and "promote" while there's zero evidence and also look at Japan sexual crime rates. Oh well.
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Quoting: WarpigIt's because pedophilia is a huge problem right now...world wide. Did you see the news about the bishops in Chile? They all resigned over sex abuse. Maybe your not paying attention...There is an elite pedophilia ring that traffics children for sex and then engages in organ harvesting.And I'm sure they all got the idea from playing HuniePop.
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