DXVK for Direct3D 11 over Vulkan in Wine has a new 0.60 release

Quoting: MohandevirEdit: Thinking about it, even if there is a middleman to support the game, for those that needs wants it, nothing prevents you from downloading the Windows version and hack DXVK + Wine to your need. One doesn't forbide the other. Linux as always been about choices. :)

To be clear, I have nothing against supported releases, I prefer them even. Since it shows that developers care about Linux gaming if they support the game. I was just pointing out, that in a way, Wine gives us more choice than some publishers who decide what to release for Linux (and where), and what not.

Quoting: TheSHEEEP396.24.02 for NVIDIA?
Oof... the one currently in the packages is 390.48.
Trying to install more recent drivers from NVidias website has always resulted in completely messing up the graphics drivers - aka nothing works anymore until you repair the X configuration files, etc. Extremely bothersome, so I've stopped using anything that's not in the official packages.

I am using this ppa, never had issues with it on my system, you may want to try.

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: MohandevirEdit: Thinking about it, even if there is a middleman to support the game, for those that needs wants it, nothing prevents you from downloading the Windows version and hack DXVK + Wine to your need. One doesn't forbide the other. Linux as always been about choices. :)

To be clear, I have nothing against supported releases, I prefer them even. Since it shows that developers care about Linux gaming if they support the game. I was just pointing out, that in a way, Wine gives us more choice than some publishers who decide what to release for Linux (and where), and what not.

And, for my part, I use DXVK + Wine to play Witcher 3. :D

Quoting: MohandevirThinking about my 10 years old son setting up DXVK and wine to play a game... Not. He's going to switch back to the PS4 in 2 seconds.

While this isn't completely relevant to the ideas that are being discussed:
Honestly, now that lutris installers are starting to adopt it we aren't far away from where a 10 year old can easily install DXVK+wine+a game.

Quoting: nox

Quoting: MohandevirThinking about my 10 years old son setting up DXVK and wine to play a game... Not. He's going to switch back to the PS4 in 2 seconds.

While this isn't completely relevant to the ideas that are being discussed:
Honestly, now that lutris installers are starting to adopt it we aren't far away from where a 10 year old can easily install DXVK+wine+a game.

True enough. Forgot about flatpaks and snap apps too. Still, I don't know how they can handle non-free games to stay legit...


Last edited by Mohandevir on 22 June 2018 at 2:41 pm UTC

Quoting: MohandevirTrue enough. Forgot about flatpaks and snap apps too. Still, I don't know how they can handle non-free games to stay legit...

Same as POL / Lutris do I suppose. They provide scripts to set up the environment for Wine, but you still need to provide the installer for the actual game first.


Last edited by Shmerl on 22 June 2018 at 2:46 pm UTC

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: MohandevirTrue enough. Forgot about flatpaks and snap apps too. Still, I don't know how they can handle non-free games to stay legit...

Same as POL / Lutris do I suppose. They provide scripts to set up the environment for Wine, but you still need to provide the installer for the actual game first.

It always comes to the same thing: You need to provide the windows installer. This is not a solution for beginners. Maybe snap apps and/or flatpaks will appear in online stores, in the futur, but is there any advantages to a standard wine-wrapped game?

Quoting: MohandevirIt always comes to the same thing: You need to provide the windows installer. This is not a solution for beginners.

How is it harder than using the installer on Windows? GOG provide installers for instance, you just install them on Linux, using needed tools. The benefit of PlayOnLinux, Lutris and other wrapper scripts is that they simplify Wine configuration.

Quoting: Mohandevirbut is there any advantages to a standard wine-wrapped game?

No advantage that I can see, besides sandboxing.


Last edited by Shmerl on 22 June 2018 at 2:58 pm UTC

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: MohandevirIt always comes to the same thing: You need to provide the windows installer. This is not a solution for beginners.

How is it harder than using the installer on Windows? GOG provide installers for instance, you just install them on Linux, using needed tools. The benefit of PlayOnLinux, Lutris and other wrapper scripts is that they simplify Wine configuration.

Not much. But believe me, my experience with multiple newcomers to Linux showed me that it doesn't take much to make them drop. From the start, the UI needs adaptation and then apps that are replaced by new ones (even if they are more performant)... Then you add a tool that doesn't work the same way as on "the other OS"... You get a: "I quit" pretty fast.

Edit: In fact my most successfull conversion experience was with my 74 years old father... He had no Windows background. Lol!


Last edited by Mohandevir on 22 June 2018 at 3:07 pm UTC

Quoting: MohandevirNot much. But believe me, my experience with multiple newcomers to Linux showed me that it doesn't take much to make them drop. From the start, the UI needs adaptation and then apps that are replaced by new ones (even if they are more performant)... Then you add a tool that doesn't work the same way as on "the other OS"... You get a: "I quit" pretty fast.

Edit: In fact my most successfull conversion experience was with my 74 years old father... He had no Windows background. Lol!

Don't think many can argue against this, but this goes no matter what. Even Linux people giving a different DE a go can end up with the same reaction. People for the most part don't like change, and that's something that will always be an issue no matter how well wine, and even native games, works.