Feral Interactive have no plans to put their Linux ports on GOG

Quoting: PublicNuisance1. The issue at hand here is not games not being released on GOG but that Windows versions of games are being released and not the Mac or Linux versions.

One game. Different publishers.

Quoting: PublicNuisance2. You say they won't port their own games to Linux but they did have Witcher 2 ported so the correct thing to have said was they don't port all of their games to Linux not that they don't port any at all

One game. Ported by Virtual Programming.

Quoting: ShmerlAs expected. It makes their pro-DRM attitude quite clear, since in this case it was totally Feral's decision given that 2K have no objections to the DRM-free release.

It so easy to come here and sound like a popular guy between these selfish human beings who thinks devs doesnt have the right to have a minimal protection of their intellectual property.
If DRM protection that doesnt affect legit users(as DENUVO) would bring more AAA games to Linux, be my guest, because people like you and the Steam Haters are making of Linux a less attractive platform for bigger publishers, and sometimes even indies get tired of these hipsters asking for GOG releases instead of supporting the game on Steam.
Enjoy what you have now, I hope there are more people putting their feet on the ground and support devs or porters who actually care about Linux buying those games on Steam, or if the case, Origin, Battle Net and other DRM stores. If the case is the contrary, well, start to install windows again, because no more Linux games when devs get tired of this NO-DRM bu11sh!t.


Last edited by orochi_kyo on 18 June 2018 at 5:22 pm UTC

Quoting: Linas

Quoting: PublicNuisance1. The issue at hand here is not games not being released on GOG but that Windows versions of games are being released and not the Mac or Linux versions.

One game. Different publishers.

Do you seriously not know of other games that have released a Windows version on GOG but not the Linux or Mac versions ? Are you truly that uninformed ?

Dying Light, Metro 2033 Redux, Metro Last Light Redux, Alice VR, Mafia III, Mafia II, that's all literally what came to mind in a matter of seconds and not a full list.

Quoting: MblackwellJust because something is technically possible doesn't mean it is worth the potential time and money investment.

That's kind of the point too? Feral don't see DRM-free release as something worth to spend time on. That's DRM-free unfriendly to me already. Especially when other developers spend resources on it.


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Quoting: orochi_kyoIt so easy to come here and sound like a popular guy between these selfish human beings who thinks devs doesnt have the right to have a minimal protection of their intellectual property.

I'm not interested disproving this nonsense for the Nth time already. I'll just sum up key points:

1. DRM doesn't protect any property, but it violates users' rights because it's unethical overreaching preemptive policing.
2. Reasons for using DRM aren't related to increasing sales, because in practice DRM only decreases them.


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Quoting: GuestIt's obviously not worth it for Feral to put this on GOG. That's all that can be taken from this. And it's not the first time I've seen that from a developer, even on Windows.

Again, this is an excuse you are producing for Feral, and I don't buy this excuse. Because of many reasons explained above, including GOG not being the only DRM-free release option. Sure, it's not the first time we've seen it, so Feral can be criticized for it, same as others.


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Quoting: sbolokanovAll the games I have (pretty much all that are worth having, before Rise of Tomb Raider), can not be played without the Steam client. Yes, I have actually thought of that and tested.

Ok, this settles the issue then. I don't care that much, I'm ok with Steam DRM in general, but I can understand why purists shame Feral and refuse to buy their products.

Quoting: GuestAlso, take off the Feral blinders. It's not an excuse for Feral. It's a possible explanation for the situation between Feral _and_ GOG. Don't forget the GOG part in there. It's quite simply not up to Feral alone - it is a business deal between two parties, and it may not be adequate for the needs of one or the other. Before you try, no, that can have absolutely nothing, I repeat _nothing_, to do with DRM. As I, and others, have already explained.

I already answered that. If you claim it's a specific issue between GOG and Feral, where is their DRM-free release elsewhere? You mentioned itch. I didn't see Xcom from Feral DRM-free there. So the issue is not just with GOG, but with Feral themselves.


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Quoting: GuestAnd I already answered _that_.

Saying that Feral don't want to do DRM-free release (anywhere). So we agree. Going around with excuses about their technical debt (like splitting out Steamworks lock-in) doesn't change the above fact. Feral are the bottleneck here and not GOG or anyone else.


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Quoting: PublicNuisanceDo you seriously not know of other games that have released a Windows version on GOG but not the Linux or Mac versions? Are you truly that uninformed?

I was under impression that we were talking about games from Feral Interactive.

Quoting: PublicNuisanceDying Light, Metro 2033 Redux, Metro Last Light Redux, Alice VR, Mafia III, Mafia II, that's all literally what came to mind in a matter of seconds and not a full list.

I also talked about how GOG is not a particularly inviting platform for Linux users or developers.

Sorry, but I am not sure what you mean by Mafia games. They are not on Linux at all, aren't they?