Techland haven't decided if Dying Light 2 will be on Linux

Quoting: Jarno

Quoting: Patola

Quoting: jensPlease grow up. It doesn't matter at all what you do with the game. If you use it for whatever purpose you'll have to pay, anything else is theft/piracy or what you prefer to call it.

Unauthorized copy. Or piracy.
But it is not theft. There is no subtraction. Even if it is a crime, it is a different crime.
Tired response? Yeah, for a tired argument.

Well, in here where I live it isn't even crime to download.

Not a crime perhaps in certain countries, but ethical or even moral? That's a different story.

At GOL, we firmly believe you should support developers if you intended to use their software, regardless of it natively supporting Linux or not. The fact is, if you're "pirating" it to play it in Wine, you should really still be buying it. You're not entitled to anyone's work for free if they require a purchase for it.

i havent played dead island riptide. ill gonna buy it now and play it on linux. maybe it helps techland to decide

do we know if they use VULKAN for windows?
i think it would be easier to port it to linux then, like this article says about doom
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/doom-2016-could-have-been-on-linux-id-software-made-a-linux-version-sound-easy-to-do.11465

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Jarno

Quoting: Patola

Quoting: jensPlease grow up. It doesn't matter at all what you do with the game. If you use it for whatever purpose you'll have to pay, anything else is theft/piracy or what you prefer to call it.

Unauthorized copy. Or piracy.
But it is not theft. There is no subtraction. Even if it is a crime, it is a different crime.
Tired response? Yeah, for a tired argument.

Well, in here where I live it isn't even crime to download.

Not a crime perhaps in certain countries, but ethical or even moral? That's a different story.

At GOL, we firmly believe you should support developers if you intended to use their software, regardless of it natively supporting Linux or not. The fact is, if you're "pirating" it to play it in Wine, you should really still be buying it. You're not entitled to anyone's work for free if they require a purchase for it.

Oh, you nicely skipped what I told earlier.

Quoting: mylkai havent played dead island riptide. ill gonna buy it now and play it on linux. maybe it helps techland to decide

do we know if they use VULKAN for windows?
i think it would be easier to port it to linux then, like this article says about doom
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/doom-2016-could-have-been-on-linux-id-software-made-a-linux-version-sound-easy-to-do.11465

Probably DX11 ( for Windows 7 users ) and DX12 combined ( because of Xbox One version), little chance for Vulkan.

Quoting: Patola

Quoting: liamdaweAt GOL, we firmly believe you should support developers if you intended to use their software, regardless of it natively supporting Linux or not. The fact is, if you're "pirating" it to play it in Wine, you should really still be buying it. You're not entitled to anyone's work for free if they require a purchase for it.

Without going deep on this discussion, I just want to point out that pirates (crackers, actually) do a valuable service for Linux gamers: they strip DRM-infested games of those diseases, and usually do other stuff too, like removing inconveniences like spyware (e.g. redshell), or the need to stay online / log in to steam. Many games would not even run in wine if there is no such people to work that out. As Liam said, though, paying a developer for its work is a moral obligation, there is no running from that. DRM and spyware are not moral too.

Also, not all cracked games comes to available to majority or normal users. You can easily find all scene cracked games with http://predb.me/?search=linux (as titles only, that site doesn't give .torrent links) but still, not all of those comes to .torrent or such. Piracy is not rly that big of a thing if you ask me (what comes to pirating linux games), its just a small percentage of a games which comes to downloadable to normal users.


Last edited by Jarno on 29 June 2018 at 7:53 pm UTC

As expected. I'm always doubting any games shown on Microsoft E3 will launched on Linux. Including beloved CP2077 (sorry guys). If the games 'shown on Microsoft E3' launched on Linux, great but i'm expecting the game will become broken like Ark. If the games doesn't become 'Ark', then I will buy it. That's the lesson I learned after become Linux gamer.

Sorry guys, but my perception sometimes hard to change. And for many reasons.

Quoting: tonRAs expected. I'm always doubting any games shown on Microsoft E3 will launched on Linux. Including beloved CP2077 (sorry guys). If the games 'shown on Microsoft E3' launched on Linux, great but i'm expecting the game will become broken like Ark. If the games doesn't become 'Ark', then I will buy it. That's the lesson I learned after become Linux gamer.

Sorry guys, but my perception sometimes hard to change. And for many reasons.

You are very right , why are you keep saying sorry though?

Until they support Linux properly , no bucks from me.

Also a clarification to running repacked games:

If i had to buy every Windows only title to run them with Wine , i would dual boot or single boot to Windows instead. I don't like to pay and suffer.

Quoting: LeopardYou are very right , why are you keep saying sorry though?

It's Asian culture way to say "That's is my opinion but I'm respecting yours" (old habit die hard). I think other culture also have a same way to expressing their opinion.

Quoting: LeopardUntil they support Linux properly , no bucks from me.

Also a clarification to running repacked games:

If i had to buy every Windows only title to run them with Wine , i would dual boot or single boot to Windows instead. I don't like to pay and suffer.

Agree. No tux no bucks. No negotiate.

About repackaged (Windows) games and Wine. I'd rather return back sailing on 'torrent seas' because pirated Windows games are always much more stable than original one.

Quoting: JarnoOh, you nicely skipped what I told earlier.

On how you pirate games? No I didn't skip that, I'm aware you feel entitled to the works of others and make excuses for it. Not having a demo is not an excuse. All I see is the usual excuses.

If you want a game, that normally costs money - pay for it. If it's not on your platform, that doesn't mean shit, you're still in the wrong.

We have mostly open rules about commenting here, but openly talking about how you pirate games, when we're a minority platform trying to get more games, is extremely counter-productive. Stop.

If they work on a vulkan renderer then it becomes multi-platform ready, I seriously hope this developer understands that. Kinda getting sick of developers spending time on releasing their game with 3 or 4 graphics API's just to work on all the platforms, its INSANE!

PS. You can buy a title on Steam and then get a refund a couple days later if you don't like it. I have done this a few times, even recently with post scriptum (too hard for me, too buggy). That's basically a free demo right there!


Last edited by TheRiddick on 29 June 2018 at 10:25 pm UTC