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In an interesting blog post written up today, Valve's Erik Johnson has said how Valve will be relaxing their rules for what will be acceptable on Steam.

You might have seen the discussion recently about how Valve sent word to a few developers, giving them notice that their games are going to be removed from Steam. Even we picked up on this, as it didn't really feel right.

There were people suggesting that payment processors were to blame, or outside groups like we had linked in our previous article's comments. Valve said this is not the case at all. It's also not an automated process, Johnson said they have "groups of people looking at the contents of every controversial title submitted to us".

Now, Valve will allow pretty much anything "except for things that we decide are illegal, or straight up trolling". The blog post read as a surprisingly personal insight into how Valve operate, something Valve has been starting to do a little more often lately (which is great to see).

This bit got me:

So what does this mean? It means that the Steam Store is going to contain something that you hate, and don't think should exist. Unless you don't have any opinions, that's guaranteed to happen. But you're also going to see something on the Store that you believe should be there, and some other people will hate it and want it not to exist.

Naturally, Johnson made it clear that being allowed on Steam doesn't mean Valve agree with the content themselves. However, it now means a human at Valve can no longer just send out warnings of a game being removed from Steam. The fact that they're making this step, this real progress towards being more open is a good thing for developers and for gamers.

They continue to be my favourite store and I'm personally happy they will so openly admit when they're wrong and they didn't have a good handle on the situation. Their previous rules seemed to be okay for some, not okay for others—just too vague. Let's just hope the words turn into a reality.

Additionally though, a valid complaint will be that with even less curation finding games you want to see could end up being a bigger problem, one they will need to solve. Obviously this is where the likes of us come in, to let you know about good games, but an improved way to filter the Steam store itself will help. No matter what though, someone won't be happy.

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rkfg Jun 6, 2018
This is really good. That's what real freedom of speech means. Not creating echo chambers full of people searching for a reason to be offended but a truly open place with something for everyone. Hell, I WANT to have things I hate there because that would exactly mean that something I love and somebody else hates is also welcome. This is the only guarantee that steam is not going the wrong way and will accept whatever controversial games created. We don't want censorship in any form. We can decide for ourselves what to buy and play. We're adults. We want to be offended and let people enjoy things we personally can't or don't want. So be it.
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Speak for yourselves when you say you want to be offended. I'd rather not. Sure, let content exist and be purchasable on Steam that I don't care for at all. But if you do that, then let me "subscribe" to a curator or set of curators that can even control the front page.
rkfg Jun 6, 2018
Sure, there must be options to filter the content. But they should be applied for you only, not for everyone. I grew tired enough of governments blocking websites because they promote gambling, tell about drugs etc. because think of children! That's why we'll block it for everyone, seems rational. While Steam of course is not a government but rather a business with its own rules, I'm happy to see them not making the same mistakes. The filter has to be per-person only, be it parental firewall or anything else. Don't decide for others what they're allowed to see and do and everyone will be happy.


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rkfg Jun 6, 2018
Tl;dr there are two ways:
- I don't like this, let me filter it out (the right way)
- I don't like this, DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY (this is fundamentally wrong and still a lot of corporations do exactly that)
nox Jun 6, 2018
Quoting: 14Speak for yourselves when you say you want to be offended. I'd rather not. Sure, let content exist and be purchasable on Steam that I don't care for at all. But if you do that, then let me "subscribe" to a curator or set of curators that can even control the front page.

Good news, the adult filter should already take care of parts of it :)
https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences

You can also filter based on tags, apparently. So, if you really dislike certain features, genres or topics you can do it there too.
nox Jun 6, 2018
Quoting: GuestShouldn't Valve be doing the opposite? the amount of shovelware and asset flips that appear on steam, they just have no Quality Assurance at all in that regard, thank god for places like GOG where they don't let any P.O.S software onto their store
Shovelware and asset flips isn't the problem being discussed. I do agree that it has to be hidden or removed, but this is about content - not quality.

The problem with asset flips shouldn't get any worse because of this. Really hope they find a decent way to make it better though.


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Nezchan Jun 6, 2018
So I guess we're going to see more publishers like the guys who were making "Active Shooter", specializing in buggy, asset-flipped shovelware with names and basic concepts designed to attract outrage (for instance, one game was nominally about Tesla and had the name changed to include "White Power"). Steam kicked them off the service, but I guess it's a viable business model there now.
Marcsello Jun 6, 2018
I hope that they finally removing the "game must run on windows" rule. And we can see some linux exclusives on Steam.
DarthJarjar Jun 7, 2018
That is a good move from Valve, in my opinion.

Those who have a very strong moral compass will surely find that crossing a few tags in a list is a trivial thing to do compare to all the other things they do to live to their own standard. So they should be satisfied.

The others do not really care...

In short, everyone should be happy.

And we all want to live in a world where everyone is happy, even if they do not necessarily share our point of view.
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Quoting: 14Speak for yourselves when you say you want to be offended. I'd rather not. Sure, let content exist and be purchasable on Steam that I don't care for at all. But if you do that, then let me "subscribe" to a curator or set of curators that can even control the front page.

Good news, the adult filter should already take care of parts of it :)
https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences

You can also filter based on tags, apparently. So, if you really dislike certain features, genres or topics you can do it there too.
I already use those, and they're nice, but Windows-only games still slip through the cracks in sections of the front page. I'll admit that the Steam preferences seem to work better than they used to.

At the end of the day, I barely rely on the Steam store page to find new games that I might be interested in. The avenues that make me curios of new games: GoL, Twitch, GOG, Co-Optimus.
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