SteamOS has a minor update to test the waters before a bigger update

I wonder if they're planning on maybe switching it onto a newer Debian base entirely, stretch has been released for over a year now after all.

Quoting: AnanaceI wonder if they're planning on maybe switching it onto a newer Debian base entirely, stretch has been released for over a year now after all.

Possibly what they've been working towards.

Quoting: GuestVery naive question but what would be the main advantages for them ? Larger hardware support ? Newer kernel features they could use ? Just not to be cut form main support ? Aren't they not taking care of the GPU driver side of things themselves already ?

I confess i know little.

All of the above :P

Newer kernel = works with newer hardware. Same with GPU drivers and since they use Mesa for AMD GPUs, their support is a little behind.

When will they starting developing exclusive titles?

Quoting: gustavoyaraujoWhen will they starting developing exclusive titles?

Exclusives are just bad, no one wants them. They push platforms, sure, but they lock you into things.

It's nice that they update SteamOS 2.0, but it's high time to seriously update both the base system and the BPM.

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: gustavoyaraujoWhen will they starting developing exclusive titles?

Exclusives are just bad, no one wants them. They push platforms, sure, but they lock you into things.

I agree :-)

What I would really love to see is an "AAA" title that will be 50€/$ that plays for any OS (win/mac/linux) *OR* only 5 but then you have it _only_ for linux.

Quoting: lucinos

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: gustavoyaraujoWhen will they starting developing exclusive titles?

Exclusives are just bad, no one wants them. They push platforms, sure, but they lock you into things.

I agree :-)

What I would really love to see is an "AAA" title that will be 50€/$ that plays for any OS (win/mac/linux) *OR* only 5 but then you have it _only_ for linux.

This is a great idea. After the uncountable amount of times my friends have asked me to play Overwatch, PUBG, Seige, etc... (and begging me dual boot Windows) I'd like to have just one title to shove in their faces.

Quoting: GuestVery naive question but what would be the main advantages for them ? Larger hardware support ? Newer kernel features they could use ? Just not to be cut from main support ? Aren't they not taking care of the GPU driver side of things themselves already ?

I confess i know little.

It is about the equivalent of going from a 4 year old operating system to a 1 year old one with much better support for backports.

Quoting: Gueststeam machine happens
the value of these is pointless

microsoft releases xbox one which might as well be a windows 10 version of a steam machine
everyone jumps on it or is jumping on it now

To be fair, the XBOX One X got its ass handed to it by the PS4 this console generation, so not everyone jumped on it. That said, the XBOX still sold way better than Steam Machines.

I believe this update stopped all of the Shadowrun games from launching correctly. I can still launch them from the command line... Still good that they are actively developing.

Most steam machines where upgradable in every respect except for the Motherboard. It would be nice if they went with a ITX standard however!

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: gustavoyaraujoWhen will they starting developing exclusive titles?

Exclusives are just bad, no one wants them. They push platforms, sure, but they lock you into things.

And that is the point in this industry... SteamOS itself is pointless If you don't give a real reason to the average videogame consumer for to use it...

The Debian mailing list announced that Jessie is end of life and will no longer receive even security updates as of June. If I was maintaining a fork that still relied fairly heavily on Jessie, I would work to get it converted to Stretch ASAP.

Quoting: TheRiddickMost steam machines where upgradable in every respect except for the Motherboard. It would be nice if they went with a ITX standard however!

It's pretty simple --

$260 -- Dan a4 SFX

$120 - Corsair SFX PSU 600 Watt -- SF600

~$130 - Mini ITX Motherboard

~ $200 - CPU

~ $100 - RAM

~$250 - GPU

~$100 - M.2 SSD or 2.5" SSD

~$50 Noctura CPU Fan

So basically you could do a upgradable small form factor Steam Machine for $1210 not including controller, monitor/tv, keyboard, mouse.

And if you have a GPU, CPU / Ram you can knock off $550.

And if you wanna knock off another $100 you could try for a Dr Zaber Sentry instead of a Dan a4 SFX if you prefer the flat console like look like Xbox

Use an existing SSD? -$100






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As much as Steam machines and SteamOS don't really interest me personally I'm really glad to see Valve supporting it

Quoting: GuestVery naive question but what would be the main advantages for them ? Larger hardware support ? Newer kernel features they could use ? Just not to be cut from main support ? Aren't they not taking care of the GPU driver side of things themselves already ?

I confess i know little.

Better support for newer hardware, better support for open source gpu drivers (amd/intel) and better support for controllers are in newer kernels and important for gamers.

Quoting: ElectricPrismIt's pretty simple --

$260 -- Dan a4 SFX

$120 - Corsair SFX PSU 600 Watt -- SF600

~$130 - Mini ITX Motherboard

~ $200 - CPU

~ $100 - RAM

~$250 - GPU

~$100 - M.2 SSD or 2.5" SSD

~$50 Noctura CPU Fan

So basically you could do a upgradable small form factor Steam Machine for $1210 not including controller, monitor/tv, keyboard, mouse.

And people complained why capable Steam Machines costed $1000+. Small form is expensive, unless it strongly benefits from economy of scale AND is sold below cost in the hope to earn money through game sale (i.e. console approach to marketing).

Quoting: ElectricPrism

Quoting: TheRiddickMost steam machines where upgradable in every respect except for the Motherboard. It would be nice if they went with a ITX standard however!

It's pretty simple --

$260 -- Dan a4 SFX

$120 - Corsair SFX PSU 600 Watt -- SF600

~$130 - Mini ITX Motherboard

~ $200 - CPU

~ $100 - RAM

~$250 - GPU

~$100 - M.2 SSD or 2.5" SSD

~$50 Noctura CPU Fan

So basically you could do a upgradable small form factor Steam Machine for $1210 not including controller, monitor/tv, keyboard, mouse.

And if you have a GPU, CPU / Ram you can knock off $550.

And if you wanna knock off another $100 you could try for a Dr Zaber Sentry instead of a Dan a4 SFX if you prefer the flat console like look like Xbox

Use an existing SSD? -$100

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i built my own steam machine 2 years ago. with help of a friend who has all the machinery in his basement. i constructed an own case for itx. but if you want it really small to fit in your shelf in your living room, this isn't that easy. and to find a suitable little case with dvd-drive isn't neither.
i still have little problems with overheating when playing games like "dying light".

Quoting: gustavoyaraujoWhen will they starting developing exclusive titles?

Wrong question it should of been when will they start making games again ?