DXVK expands with Direct3D 10 over Vulkan in Wine, also info on the new Direct3D 9-to-11 project

Quoting: GuestWould I have to specify between things like to use DX11 or DX10 ect. per game, or would it automatically do all that for me? I wouldn't know which games use which version of direct x and could imagine it being confusing if I had to specify per-game which version of directx to use

Probably it will do that automatically since game would make a Dx10 call ,not Dx11.

@Doktor_Mandrake DXVK comes with DLLs for D3D11 and D3D10, just set it up as usual and the game will use whatever it needs. There aren't much more than a handful of D3D10 games out there, but given how simple this initial implementation turned out to be it was probably worth it.


Last edited by YoRHa-2B on 13 August 2018 at 8:23 pm UTC

Quoting: GuestWould I have to specify between things like to use DX11 or DX10 ect. per game, or would it automatically do all that for me?

It's implemented in the setup scripts. It installs the needed dll for 10 and 11:
https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/commit/4867c8b6e55c699af0934401681a8b726c50be3b

I'm so excited to test this right now on Just Cause 2. Until now I can not play this game on Wine. Compilation in progress...

The lads are going crazy. Good for us, if they can succeed. That, especially DX9 (DX10->11 wasn't that big afterall, DX9-> 10 was a real break) sounds like a tough challange. I didn't think DXVK could be what it is today though, especially in the time they got that done (or he, it seems mainly one crazy and very skilled lad pulling that stunt off).

I gotta' admit, I am stunned by the progress and I hope the eyes are not bigger than the stomach can handle.. that's a crazy amount of work. As it was with DXVK to get it where it is now.

edit: Forgot to say I wish them the best of luck and a lot of success ofc. Just because I'm sceptical of the work required, I very much appreciate the stunt they're pulling off here, which is nothing short of incredible.


Last edited by STiAT on 13 August 2018 at 8:58 pm UTC

Is there a list of games, where people reported they got problems using DXVK?
I found on the net that Blizzard won't give you problems playing Overwatch using DXVK, but e.g. Warframe and Dark Souls 3 should be avoided.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: edmondo

Quoting: GuestWould I have to specify between things like to use DX11 or DX10 ect. per game, or would it automatically do all that for me?

It's implemented in the setup scripts. It installs the needed dll for 10 and 11:
https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/commit/4867c8b6e55c699af0934401681a8b726c50be3b

Quoting: edmondo

Quoting: GuestWould I have to specify between things like to use DX11 or DX10 ect. per game, or would it automatically do all that for me?

It's implemented in the setup scripts. It installs the needed dll for 10 and 11:
https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/commit/4867c8b6e55c699af0934401681a8b726c50be3b

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: GuestWould I have to specify between things like to use DX11 or DX10 ect. per game, or would it automatically do all that for me? I wouldn't know which games use which version of direct x and could imagine it being confusing if I had to specify per-game which version of directx to use

Probably it will do that automatically since game would make a Dx10 call ,not Dx11.

Thanks guys

Looks like I'll have to do some testing this weekend, not even tried latest version of wine yet

And for things with DX10 calls and DX11 features, they added the application based workarounds, as for World of Warcraft. Interesting, that Mesa and DXVK need game based workarounds. Seems game devs / engines are not always compliant to standards.

Quoting: CorbenIs there a list of games, where people reported they got problems using DXVK?
I found on the net that Blizzard won't give you problems playing Overwatch using DXVK, but e.g. Warframe and Dark Souls 3 should be avoided.

I'd personally search the DXVK bugtracker on github, there are a lot of issues with games reported, and if not - report it. They devs actively maintain the bugtracker, but they may require quite a lot of detailled information in the bugs to fix them or work around it (as driver behaviour on windows/linux)

I think what Carben meant by "problems" was actually getting banned for playing a game with wine+dxvk. And while I'm not sure about Warframe - there seems to have been some FUD about running it on Wine - Dark Souls 3 really doesn't like being played on Linux and you will get banned when trying any sort of online activity.

Quoting: STiATInteresting, that Mesa and DXVK need game based workarounds. Seems game devs / engines are not always compliant to standards.

The World of Warcraft D3D10 hack is no longer needed now that D3D10 is supported, and will be removed. Similarly, the stream output hack won't be required anymore when DXVK supports it properly. Other than that, there really aren't too many per-app hacks in DXVK and I'm trying to keep their number as low as possible.

But stating that game engines are not always compliant to standards is a massive understatement. You won't believe how broken some games are and how painful it can be to work around those issues. Low-effort Japanese PC ports like Yakuza 0 or Nier tend to be the worst offenders.

Quoting: YoRHa-2BI think what Carben meant by "problems" was actually getting banned for playing a game with wine+dxvk. And while I'm not sure about Warframe - there seems to have been some FUD about running it on Wine - Dark Souls 3 really doesn't like being played on Linux and you will get banned when trying any sort of online activity.

Ah yeah, Corben means getting banned ;)
According to this thread respectively this follow up thread, playing Warframe might not be possible using DXVK.

Haven't found any other reports yet, but maybe just because nobody tried it yet. E.g. I found only someone trying the demo of Elite: Dangerous, but I'd be interested in the online game.
Unfortunately most Publishers don't answer these questions, except stating that Linux is not supported at all. So getting an answer from Blizzard was pretty awesome, where they also say Linux/wine is not supported, but at least you'll get only banned for using cheats/bots, not just for using the DXVK dll files.

edit: oh, seems like Frontier Development also has no problems using DXVK according to this chat.


Last edited by Corben on 13 August 2018 at 9:59 pm UTC

just cause 2 was the one game i've been longing to play since i went full on linux,frigging amazing :)

Re the banning. I can also confirm that at least Overwatch has no problem with that. Plus it runs great.

Liam, you might want to link that issue instead of the current one in the article: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/issues/551

It seems to be a readme with a lot of details into the D3D10 support :)

Amazing work, although DX10 wasn't very popular I'm sure sooner or later I will find a use for this feature. Thanks for your work.

Quoting: CorbenAccording to this thread respectively this follow up thread, playing Warframe might not be possible using DXVK.

People have played the game before and I haven't heard a single complaint about someone actually getting banned. I think people are just reading the supporter's reply wrong, some assume that they'll get auto-banned and then complain on the forums about nothing. At least that's my take on the situation.

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I should probably copy-paste more often instead of trying to figure out italic fonts, sorry about that.

So.. Can We play Crysis in DX10 with this?

Quoting: YoRHa-2BBut stating that game engines are not always compliant to standards is a massive understatement. You won't believe how broken some games are and how painful it can be to work around those issues. Low-effort Japanese PC ports like Yakuza 0 or Nier tend to be the worst offenders.

Sorry for that. Because I primarily blamed it on driver bugs until I realized that some things may are not as they should be...

Amazing project. Wish I could donate to DXVK, but the devs don't accept donations for unknown reasons.

Quoting: Corbenedit: oh, seems like Frontier Development also has no problems using DXVK according to this chat.

Oh my. ED was half the reason I went to all the trouble of setting up a VM with PCI passthrough; the other half was mostly for the learning experience.

Hey, Liam... Sorry if you already saw my post in Mastodon and just didn't find it interesting enough... I don't know if you just don't check that one frequently (I don't use Twitter or other "mainstream" social networks anymore)... Anyway, I posted about the developer of the cool looking game "Ellen Teaser The Fall" sort of confirming the game on Linux and even looking for beta testers in what seems to be a near-ish future.

Here's the discussion in Steam (for you or anyone interested): https://steamcommunity.com/app/822920/discussions/0/1694917906657130974/