The GPU race continues on once again, as NVIDIA have now officially announced the GeForce RTX 2000 series of GPUs and they're launching in September.
This new series will be based on their Turing architecture and their RTX platform. These new RT Cores will "enable real-time ray tracing of objects and environments with physically accurate shadows, reflections, refractions and global illumination." which sounds rather fun.
They will start off with three models to succeed their current top of the line:
- RTX 2070 with 8GB GDDR6, available in October
- RTX 2080 with 8GB GDDR6, available in September
- RTX 2080 Ti with 11GB GDDR6, available in September
Naturally, for a brand new series they won't be cheap!
The "Founders Edition" NVIDIA are offering will be £1,099/$1,199 for the RTX 2080 Ti, £749/$799 for the RTX 2080 and £569/$599 for the RTX 2070. From what I've seen, these editions will have a higher clock boost over the normal editions.
The normal "Reference" editions will be cheaper of course, with the RTX 2080 Ti at $999, RTX 2080 at $699 and RTX 2070 at $499. Unsure on the UK prices for the normal editions, as I can't see them listed currently but you get the idea.
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NVIDIA generally have good support for new GPUs on Linux, so I'm sure a brand new driver is already on the way to be released soon.
See more on the official NVIDIA site, their announcement blog post and this post as well.
Will you be picking one up, will you be waiting for the normal edition or will you wait and see what AMD have to offer?
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That's crazy expensive, even for new GPUs.
I'm interested in when AMD are planning to make new desktop cards. Some suggested 2019.
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I'm interested in when AMD are planning to make new desktop cards. Some suggested 2019.
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That's crazy expensive, even for new GPUs.
I'm interested in when AMD are planning to make new desktop cards. Some suggested 2019.
Theres no competition sadly :( and also GDDR6 is said to be 20% more expensive which is exactly the difference between 399 MSRP 1070 had and 499 dollars the 2070 has
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Theres no competition sadly :( and also GDDR6 is said to be 20% more expensive which is exactly the difference between 399 MSRP 1070 had and 499 dollars the 2070 has
AMD went with HBM2, but prices were inflated more because of the cryptocurrencies. I think lack of competition is more of a reason here for the higher than usual price. AMD should catch up.
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Finally!
Now the prices will finally drop on the 1080s - ergo I can get one (and then Vive is next on my list!).
Now the prices will finally drop on the 1080s - ergo I can get one (and then Vive is next on my list!).
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It seems that it need a special, proprietary extensions for vulkan, to get the raytracing and the new compute cores.
They say that those extensions will come at the future (now you can only get it from directx on windows.
To get all of those raytracing efects (they only give you a partial raytracing), the games would have to be programmed specifically for those extensions. For the normal games, you will lose 1/3 or more of chip that won't be utilized.
It would be sold if they promised all those features with the current cores (or improved ones) and like amd implementing it with opencl (nvidia has probably one of the worse opencl compatibility of all).
And remember, linux support probably will be in half a year (or more), and it wont have wayland, or hi-res console support.
(And it's too expensive for me).
They say that those extensions will come at the future (now you can only get it from directx on windows.
To get all of those raytracing efects (they only give you a partial raytracing), the games would have to be programmed specifically for those extensions. For the normal games, you will lose 1/3 or more of chip that won't be utilized.
It would be sold if they promised all those features with the current cores (or improved ones) and like amd implementing it with opencl (nvidia has probably one of the worse opencl compatibility of all).
And remember, linux support probably will be in half a year (or more), and it wont have wayland, or hi-res console support.
(And it's too expensive for me).
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yep and ill be staying with my 980ti.those prices are way out of reach for meI'm pretty much the same, my 980ti still has a good year or two of life in it yet :)
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Segata Sanshiro 20 Aug 2018
I'll probably wait until real-world benchmarks come out to see the actual performance differences, because all these claims about 10x and 8x performance only refer to ray-tracing and not conventional gaming performance. If it turns out the 2080 can finally deliver a satisfactory 4k gaming experience across big titles at over 60fps, then I'll pick one up.
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So are they already submitting patches to mesa? Oh wait, that's AMD, nevermind.
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I guess that my 1080 Ti won't be top of the range for much longer. Not that it matters - it still eats everything I throw at it, and probably will for years.
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Comandante Ñoñardo 20 Aug 2018
UNBUYABLE
INCOMPRABLE
INCOMPRABLE
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Interesting, though I doubt I´ll be buying. For one thing I feel my 1060 is more than enough at this time. Also, I value cool, energy efficient & quiet a great deal higher than I do raw performace these days, so I´m guessing my next card (if it´s nvidia) will end with either xx50 or xx60. ;)
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Doc Angelo 20 Aug 2018
I'm still getting by with a Nvidia GTX 760. I really think devs should spend more time with the visual design of the graphics and the world, instead of just using bigger textures and more polygons. What good is it when the technical quality of the graphics is high, but it is just a computery copy of the real world?
(And my pet peeve: Why are so many games still look like everything is painted in shiny clear coat? Dear devs, you don't have to turn those effects up to 11.)
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(And my pet peeve: Why are so many games still look like everything is painted in shiny clear coat? Dear devs, you don't have to turn those effects up to 11.)
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I'm in need of a big upgrade. With the new i9's coming in October and the RTX2k series in September, I'll at least have something to compare with before I choose what I want for the next five years.
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Like many people in there I'm waiting for AMD's answer. I think they definitely tried something with the RX 560 on the power/perf ratio and if they release something like the GTX 1050 Ti (but a little beefier) I'll definitely buy it.
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We all know there is a difference between performance declared on the "general purpose" (read "Windows™ oriented" ) hardware news sites and benchmarks and actual state of things on the Linux side. A card can be brilliant with DirectX™ on Windows™ but have poor performance with Vulkan on Linux or the other way around. It is hard to say for sure now.
My upgrade is planned on the next year, so I have plenty of time to see how things are developing.
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My upgrade is planned on the next year, so I have plenty of time to see how things are developing.
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VoxelForge 20 Aug 2018
It appears Nvidia is lowering the cost-effectiveness of their cards to deter crypto-miners. I understand that GDDR6 is more expensive, but so are most bleeding edge components and you don't typically a price response this drastic in new hardware. What what Nvidia have done it would make more sense for a miner to pick up a 970 Ti than wait for the 2070 which, unlike it's higher-spec brother, isn't available yet for pre-order.
Either way, I'm just waiting to see what AMD does before I make a decision on my Fall 2018 build. Though I can't imagine the competition will be enough to deter me from the RTX 2070.
Either way, I'm just waiting to see what AMD does before I make a decision on my Fall 2018 build. Though I can't imagine the competition will be enough to deter me from the RTX 2070.
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TheLinuxPleb 20 Aug 2018
I don't know why, but i don't really give a f*** about raytracing. I would much rather see more physics used in games and proper gameplay. This looks like new tech that only put's more shine in to turds, that i see as more of a bad thing rather than good.
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Finally!
Now the prices will finally drop on the 1080s - ergo I can get one (and then Vive is next on my list!).
Oh i wouldnt bet on it seeing as a 1050ti's are still selling for there original rrp second hand on ebay and they are shifting
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I'm still getting by with a Nvidia GTX 760. I really think devs should spend more time with the visual design of the graphics and the world, instead of just using bigger textures and more polygons. What good is it when the technical quality of the graphics is high, but it is just a computery copy of the real world?
(And my pet peeve: Why are so many games still look like everything is painted in shiny clear coat? Dear devs, you don't have to turn those effects up to 11.)
Beacuse it is the video game equivlent of lense flare and JJ abrams hasnt stopped it so video game devs wont either, Same still annoyed about the piss filter on deus ex human rev
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