Valve are already pushing ahead with updates to Steam Play's Proton with a beta channel

Quoting: MayeulC

Quoting: jardonController issues

Interesting to read that your controller works with BP but not with games. Is your system updated? What distribution? Have you tried another one [or a Steam flatpak]? What kernel version? Have you tried both with and without the Steam Runtime? Did you disable the Steam overlay? Did you open an issue on Valve's Github? Is it a nonstandard controller?

That's all I can think of in the top of my head :)

Forgot to check
ls -l /dev/uinput
I've found if those permissions aren't right, most games won't work but BP will.

waiting for a Proton bundle from humble bundle or one of the others... it will come.

Quoting: lovelycuppateawaiting for a Proton bundle from humble bundle or one of the others... it will come.

The Humble SteamPlay ReBundle of the Broken Humble Indie Bundle Promises

This is so incredibly great! Many titles are already working and the project just started! I'm really excited how this will develop but i'm sure it will change a lot in the (linux-)gaming scene.

Ho. Lee. Fuck.

I've been on vacation for a week where the wireless was so shite I just gave up trying. This morning I read about Steam Play and Proton, so I'm just now arriving to the dumbstruck party.

This is the bridge we've been needing to get past the "small market share vs. more AAA titles" issue. This will let the Windows escapees leave at last. This will let me buy and play many titles (Nier: Automata, por exemplo) without feeling guilty about it counting as a Windows sale.

This is the biggest news to hit Linux gaming since Valve announced SteamOS.

I feel like I'm gonna cry.

They are going to get so much money from me in the coming year.


Last edited by Nanobang on 28 August 2018 at 1:01 pm UTC

Quoting: NanobangHo. Lee. Fuck.

I've been on vacation for a week where the wireless was so shite I just gave up trying. This morning I read about Steam Play and Proton, so I'm just now arriving to the dumbstruck party.

This is the bridge we've been needing to get past the "small market share vs. more AAA titles" issue. This will let the Windows escapees leave at last. This will let me buy and play many titles (Nier: Automata, por exemplo) without feeling guilty about it counting as a Windows sale.

This is the biggest news to hit Linux gaming since Valve announced SteamOS.

I feel like I'm gonna cry.

They are going to get so much money from me in the coming year.

I was going to say this is the first time Wine has been incorporated into a commercial product, but I guess that's not true, since there are several wrapped binaries out there, and Crossover's stuff.

But yeah, pretty exciting. I need faster bandwidth, then I'd help testing with my decently sized library. But unfortunately it took me hours to download Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite and it wouldn't even start. 51GB download for nothing...

Well, Valve have updated my Steam client to the Proton-enabled version already. I hadn't jumped ship onto the Beta release, like many others here did. I was thinking: Okay, time to install DOOM (which I own already). But then, it is late at night, and we all know it works.

One game I really really wanted on Linux was The Legend Of Grimrock II which was released to Windows only. I played and completed the first game in the series, The Legend Of Grimrock, natively on Linux. Why oh why did they not release the second on Linux?

Well, it is a relatively small install, not much more than 1GB hard drive space. Installed it, played it for an hour, no glitches, all working beautifully. Wow! This is less than a week after Valve released the Proton (WINE incorporated into Steam) tech as a Beta. Now I'm playing a Windows game with it in the Official Steam client (for Linux).

Big Thumbs Up!!!!! :)

Thanks for the new, g000h!
I didn't know that Proton was included in the official Steam Client... That means only one thing: It's working!

Quoting: g000hWell, Valve have updated my Steam client to the Proton-enabled version already. I hadn't jumped ship onto the Beta release, like many others here did.

Yep, I run the "stable" (non-beta) version of Steam on my lappy and much to my surprise, I just got the update a minute ago too!

It's great to see Valve Software making a Real World effort towards getting more of their catalog available to Linux gamers and if they keep at it (by which I mean working towards getting most of the Steam catalog working via WINE within Steam), I'll certainly be spending a LOT more money in Steam... Admittedly, I'll always buy a game from GOG.com first if it's available over there (because of the DRM-free thing) - but like it or not, Steam has LOT bigger catalog and GOG.com tend to drag their feet when adding new "Linux" titles to their catalog.

Anyway, the list of "supported" games at the time of writing is (there's an option in settings to enable this for all games, which is disabled by default):

• Beat Saber


• Bejeweled 2 Deluxe


• Doki Doki Literature Club!


• DOOM


• DOOM II: Hell on Earth


• DOOM VFR


• Fallout Shelter


• FATE


• FINAL FANTASY VI


• Geometry Dash


• Google Earth VR


• Into The Breach


• Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012


• Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2013


• Mount & Blade


• Mount & Blade: With Fire & Sword


• NieR: Automata


• PAYDAY: The Heist


• QUAKE


• S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl


• Star Wars: Battlefront 2


• Tekken 7


• The Last Remnant


• Tropico 4


• Ultimate Doom


• Warhammer® 40,000: Dawn of War® - Dark Crusade


• Warhammer® 40,000: Dawn of War® - Soulstorm

And the announcement from the Steam changelog is over here:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561


Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy on 29 August 2018 at 4:23 am UTC

Sweet! Google Earth VR (if you guys have never played with it) is freaking awesome!

So it has an implementation of Street View, but since it's like taking a flat map and making it 3D it's warped as hell, and looks much like the first Silent Hill game...

Also grabbing the earth and flying over it is pretty awesome.

Quoting: slaapliedjeSweet! Google Earth VR (if you guys have never played with it) is freaking awesome!

So it has an implementation of Street View, but since it's like taking a flat map and making it 3D it's warped as hell, and looks much like the first Silent Hill game...

Also grabbing the earth and flying over it is pretty awesome.

I don't have a headset for my PC, but Street View (and its community-submitted stuff) has become my absolute favourite thing on Cardboard. It's pretty amazing to be able to really look at places you've never been, rather than just see them in photos. It's not even in proper 3D, but it gives a sense of scale and presence that you just don't get from a flat screen or a piece of paper. I'd love to try it on a decent rig.

Quoting: Dunc

Quoting: slaapliedjeSweet! Google Earth VR (if you guys have never played with it) is freaking awesome!

So it has an implementation of Street View, but since it's like taking a flat map and making it 3D it's warped as hell, and looks much like the first Silent Hill game...

Also grabbing the earth and flying over it is pretty awesome.

I don't have a headset for my PC, but Street View (and its community-submitted stuff) has become my absolute favourite thing on Cardboard. It's pretty amazing to be able to really look at places you've never been, rather than just see them in photos. It's not even in proper 3D, but it gives a sense of scale and presence that you just don't get from a flat screen or a piece of paper. I'd love to try it on a decent rig.

Sitting on top of mountains and such without having to actually travel... such epic possibilities.

I don't remember where I found this, so apologies if it was in this thread already, but a list of people's results trying out any unsupported games are here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3_odz8JzEVK80vkku-b6FsICWb45xGf4VYnzYz5cNSMVQ-5BA2WoHBGAScw96MgLj1ONA7Cx0tyGa/pubhtml

Quite a lot of games working perfectly fine!

Quoting: ArnvidrI don't remember where I found this, so apologies if it was in this thread already, but a list of people's results trying out any unsupported games are here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3_odz8JzEVK80vkku-b6FsICWb45xGf4VYnzYz5cNSMVQ-5BA2WoHBGAScw96MgLj1ONA7Cx0tyGa/pubhtml

Quite a lot of games working perfectly fine!

Yeah, the "friendly" version of that data is available over at:
https://spcr.netlify.com/

And of course, there's a link on that page to the Google Docs (raw) data... For those that prefer such a version.

Quoting: Cyba.CowboyYeah, the "friendly" version of that data is available over at:
https://spcr.netlify.com/

Nice! Did not know about that, cheers!

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: pythoneer

Quoting: ArnvidrI've been dual-booting a bit lately, and I just installed Windows from an iso downloaded directly from Microsoft, but just never registered it, and the only thing I've noticed is that I couldn't change my wallpaper. Can't see that within a game no matter what!

You're violating the software license from Microsoft by not registering your copy of windows. Its basically "stealing" (like games or movies from the internet you don't pay for). I don't know if there is a more specific term in your jurisdiction but by german law its more or less "Obtaining services by deception"(Section 265a from StGB) or breaking contracts i guess.

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p2231

Slow down there little fella.
Microsoft allow you to use Windows 10 without registering or buying a license, but they limit your customization options and you have to put up with a watermark. Which is why he can't change his wallpaper.
He downloaded it from MS and isn't breaking any rules.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10ISO

Please stop giving me names like "little fella" i don't think it's any useful. I can see how you want to make the conversation a little bit more "funny". I don't feel attacked by this and i do see that you meant it in a friendly way.

Just to make it very clear, Microsoft does not allow you that. If so, please cite the passage in any legal text where Microsoft is doing this. I based my assumption upon the written license Agreement from Microsoft *¹. In there it is very clearly stated that under section 2a. "Installation and Use Rights."

QuoteLicense. The software is licensed, not sold. Under this agreement, we grant you the right to install and run one instance of the software on your device (the licensed device), for use by one person at a time, so long as you comply with all the terms of this agreement.

So its says – to paraphrase this – you can use the Software if you agree with all the other points in the license agreement. So in that case you also need to agree with the terms under section 5. "Authorized Software and Activation."

QuoteYou are authorized to use this software only if you are properly licensed and the software has been properly activated with a genuine product key or by other authorized method. ...

So a copy of Windows that is not "properly activated" is not licensed and as such you are not authorized to use the Software. I invite you to show me a legal text from Microsoft that would violate their own passage here and grant you a license.

*¹ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/Useterms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm


Last edited by pythoneer on 16 September 2018 at 7:16 pm UTC

Just putting it out there, who really cares about whether Arnvidr is using a legal copy of Microsoft Windows 10 or not?

I don't use a Microsoft Windows-based operating system and I don't understand their licensing policies, nor do I care to... But If he/she chooses to steal the world's best example of spyware, then I don't think any of us are going to change his/her mind with what we post here.

Meanwhile, back in the Linux Community, Valve Software is pushing ahead with updates to Steam Play's Proton...


Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy on 16 September 2018 at 9:23 pm UTC

Quoting: Cyba.CowboyJust putting it out there, who really cares about whether Arnvidr is using a legal copy of Microsoft Windows 10 or not?

Arnvidr i would guess?! Why would one ask that question in the first place? Arnvidr specifically asked for it!

Quoting: ArnvidrDoes this actually make a difference these days? Is there a difference between non-genuine and non-registered?

And i was trying to help in the quest of finding an answer. I want to help people remove the confusion if i feel able to remove it.

Quoting: Cyba.CowboyI don't use a Microsoft Windows-based operating system and I don't understand their licensing policies, nor do I care to... But If he/she chooses to steal the world's best example of spyware, then I don't think any of us are going to change his/her mind with what we post here.

I never tried to convince Arnvidr to change the conscious decision of stealing. I had the impression that there was no conscious decision to steal win10 but more like a confusion in wether this is problematic or not – and not active conscious stealing! I was just trying to help getting the facts together.

Quoting: Cyba.CowboyMeanwhile, back in the Linux Community, Valve Software is pushing ahead with updates to Steam Play's Proton...

I don't know in what context this has meaning to the original problem – and by the lack of understanding this i leave this un-commented by now if not further explained.


Last edited by pythoneer on 19 September 2018 at 5:20 pm UTC

Hey, that was an interesting answer to me at least, that's something I wondered about for some time, and I get very little exposure to windows, so it was nice to get one. That said, I also somewhat agree with the above post, and while an answer was provided (thank you!), I find uninteresting to dwell on the subject much longer, especially as this is an old (but popular) topic, is kind of off-topic, and will send a notification to every participant ;)