Valve officially confirm a new version of 'Steam Play' which includes a modified version of Wine

Quoting: BoldosJust to refresh the info:
THIS is the "live" version of the tracking document, and it has grown 1,5 times from yesterday (to roughly 2600 test entries as of this morning; so pretty impressive so far):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DcZZQ4HL_Ol969UbXJmFG8TzOHNnHoj8Q1f8DIFe8-8/edit#gid=0

This generated view loads a lot faster and it's cleaner without the useless editor bits. It seems to update every 5 minutes so it's live enough.

Quoting: Boldos

Quoting: musojon74I'm liking this. There appears to be a common problem with sound. I can't get all the sound on mass effect 1 other than the intro swoosh sounds. Skyrim works lovely other than the standard freeze on quit which we are used too. No mans sky works great. Interestingly when I switch to 4k resolution on Ubuntu then run it I get a black screen with sound. Anyone getting sound but no video try out 1080p. Exciting. I deleted the wine install. If it keeps working well the windows partition is on borrowed time.

I have to confirm, that running some of the games on 4K is problematic...
...that is why it feels like I'm almost the only guy on the planet, for whom Doom is not working out of the box... (and yes, before you ask - I have a pretty standard config of Ubuntu 18.04 with GTX 1060 on 396.51). But after several tries/fights I won and I can shoot the whole Mars hell into oblivion.
Crysis is also reported to run ok, but on my 4K it is again a nogo..

Hum, since you didn't tell before I asked, have you reported your findings on Valve's Proton Github? DOOM is supposed to be supported :D

Quoting: CSharpI'm curious to see how this is gonna reflect on the Steam HW survey... So far Linux gamers playing on wine have always counted as windows. Now they're apparently properly counted as Linux. So maybe we see a spike there too.

No, wine gamers are NOT going to be counted as Linux. However, Proton users obviously run the native client, so players that previously used wine to run steam, but now use the native Steam + SteamPlay ARE going to be counted as Linux :)

Hopefully someones builds a few libraries to easily use the native Steam API with regular wine/wine staging. I foresee this happening soon enough :)

Quoting: MayeulCHopefully someones builds a few libraries to easily use the native Steam API with regular wine/wine staging. I foresee this happening soon enough :)

How about the option to use your own "compatibility tool" in steam play, as in provide a wine executable path and prefix or something along those lines and let Steam handle the API access? Might be easier said than done of course.

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: BoldosJust to refresh the info:
THIS is the "live" version of the tracking document, and it has grown 1,5 times from yesterday (to roughly 2600 test entries as of this morning; so pretty impressive so far):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DcZZQ4HL_Ol969UbXJmFG8TzOHNnHoj8Q1f8DIFe8-8/edit#gid=0

This generated view loads a lot faster and it's cleaner without the useless editor bits. It seems to update every 5 minutes so it's live enough.

Yep, that is very correct.
Nevertheless, it has a bit limited functionality, like you do not see line numbering, no possibility to filter by game name or game's Status. Hence I chose to use the more complicated version :)


Last edited by Boldos on 24 August 2018 at 8:57 am UTC

Quoting: MayeulC

Quoting: Boldos

Quoting: musojon74I'm liking this. There appears to be a common problem with sound. I can't get all the sound on mass effect 1 other than the intro swoosh sounds. Skyrim works lovely other than the standard freeze on quit which we are used too. No mans sky works great. Interestingly when I switch to 4k resolution on Ubuntu then run it I get a black screen with sound. Anyone getting sound but no video try out 1080p. Exciting. I deleted the wine install. If it keeps working well the windows partition is on borrowed time.

I have to confirm, that running some of the games on 4K is problematic...
...that is why it feels like I'm almost the only guy on the planet, for whom Doom is not working out of the box... (and yes, before you ask - I have a pretty standard config of Ubuntu 18.04 with GTX 1060 on 396.51). But after several tries/fights I won and I can shoot the whole Mars hell into oblivion.
Crysis is also reported to run ok, but on my 4K it is again a nogo..

Hum, since you didn't tell before I asked, have you reported your findings on Valve's Proton Github? DOOM is supposed to be supported :D

Ummm, nope, not yet :) I'm playing/testing the game for now (and a bunch of others); but I will report it at a later time. I guess I want to re-install it later on, and test the behavior under more "deterministic" conditions (right now I have to admit I'm not even sure how I made it work; I tried around 5 things in parallel :) ).
Anyway, I already made around 6 reports into the sheet itself, so I guess I will work on it more during the weekend; now I'm more like enjoying the ride :D

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: MayeulCHopefully someones builds a few libraries to easily use the native Steam API with regular wine/wine staging. I foresee this happening soon enough :)

How about the option to use your own "compatibility tool" in steam play, as in provide a wine executable path and prefix or something along those lines and let Steam handle the API access? Might be easier said than done of course.

My guess is that we're going to see that functionality popping up soon, as well as the ability to specify a custom proton version for each game.

Holy frikin'mecha-jesus,

Bye bye Wine, PoL or Lutris.. Bye bye super-duper-anniversary-ultimate-creators "free" Windows Update with telemetry clusterfuck and UWP junk. Bye bye NSA wankers.. I guess i don't need to renew my Crossover linux license for the next year. When i think about it, i actually have contributed to this to happen.. Wow :)

Now i just need working utility to occasionally change AlienFX colors on my X51 R2 desktop and Windows partition can rest in peace. Also need to check if new XBOX One S controller will work through bluetooth.

Busy weekend ahead.. busy.. busy.. need fresh air..

Quoting: X6205Holy frikin'mecha-jesus,

Bye bye Wine, PoL or Lutris.. Bye bye super-duper-anniversary-ultimate-creators "free" Windows Update with telemetry clusterfuck and UWP junk. Bye bye NSA wankers.. I guess i don't need to renew my Crossover linux license for the next year. When i think about it, i actually have contributed to this to happen.. Wow :)

Now i just need working utility to occasionally change AlienFX colors on my X51 R2 desktop and Windows partition can rest in peace. Also need to check if new XBOX One S controller will work through bluetooth.

Busy weekend ahead.. busy.. busy.. need fresh air..

You do know the Crossover guys ARE the Wine guys? so any money you give them helps to fund support for Linux gaming.

I laughed, the best laughing issue I did read:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/390

How to start Doom Demo? Seems broken

Quoting: legluondunetI laughed, the best laughing issue I did read:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/390

Good to read that it worked without issues :)

Quoting: legluondunetI laughed, the best laughing issue I did read:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/390

HAHAHA!

Well.. In fact the "native" Linux version of Bioshock Infinite is indeed a Windows XP build running via EON wrapper.

I found that when I did a benchmark. Reading the result file, the OS listed is Windows XP.

Quoting: PieOrCakeCrysis 2 Maximum Edition: Some intial mucking about with resolution and windowed/fullscreen, but got it working well.

How did Crysis launched for you? I can't even see any signs of it launched except the words saying launching on steam and then again I can press play.

Very strange

Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: oldeschoolLooks likes this is happening a bunch of people have been requesting a Linux port of City of Brass; the developer finally replied with a link to the announcement of Steam Play.

On the other hand, that doesn't have to be the end of the conversation. People can try it on Proton, find out what doesn't work, and report back to the dev. Knowing that they only need to fix a few issues that can't be handled by a default compatibility layer and seeing first-hand how many users are trying to play their game, what's to say the dev won't cave in and finally put some time into making their game more compatible with Linux, even if they don't truly port it? If they do, not only is it good news for their existing players who run Linux, but it puts the OS on their mind for future releases. Even if they won't port, they might consider choices that make their games more compatible with Steam Play, such as Vulkan. The snowball effect could be interesting.

This is an opportunity for Linux gamers to advocate the platform and work hand in hand with devs.

This is something that I had considered - at what point do devs start start feeling peer pressured to help Valve fix lingering compatibility issues with Wine? I mean, I haven't seen a single UPlay title work with Steam Play. Or a 2K big release. Or a great deal of Rockstar titles(esp the newer ones). When do they start feeling eveybody's eyes on them because they are the odd ones out? Blizzard and EA have already passed on Steam, so this won't affect them, but everybody else is flat out dependent on Steam for their PC sales. Valve is not FORCING devs to do anything, but all of a sudden anybody that doesn't help Valve get a game working with this suddenly starts to look bad.

So right now they help get their stuff working with Steam Play. Down the line they include a Vulkan option for their titles where earlier that would be unthinkable.


Last edited by jarhead_h on 24 August 2018 at 6:23 pm UTC

I actually didn't buy many non-Linux games over the last few years.

So, from my library if i check the games i want (and can) play :

Grim Dawn
Low Magic Age
Siralim 3 (but anyway it will come to Linux soon)

And the ones i cannot :

Battletech

Quoting: tonRTotally Linux newbie questions... Should I try it?

Very tempting to play The Sims 3....

Well, currently downloading The Sims 3. I will test it on Saturday evening or Sunday, depends on my laziness...




Add: Just The sims 3 vanilla without countless of DLCs


Last edited by tonR on 24 August 2018 at 7:25 pm UTC

Quoting: GuestHow is Tekken 7 running for you guys? For me it has pretty bad performance which is a shame for a fighting game, sits around 40-50fps most of the time, and I don't think I'm hardware bound because gpu and cpu usage still seem low and lowering settings does nothing either

Funny enough though, Killer Instinct (Which I think is a better fighting game anyway) fully works maxed out at 1080p using Proton, and its not even on the short list of games they're providing support for like Tekken 7 is.. And even more so, it's published by Microsoft and no doubt VERY heavily built on DirectX

Yet Tekken 7 uses Unreal Engine 4, also tried Snake Pass another UE4 game and performance seemed worse then last time I tried it using Lutris+DXVK and Wine, same goes for Grip which also ran fine using standard wine and DXVK... Yet on Proton it literally was going down to 6fps in-game

Seem to be having some bad luck with UE4 games so far, which I find surprising

Edit: Tested various other games as well, including Super Bomberman R (which seems to work flawlessly from the short time I spent on it).. Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy sadly crashes after I press A on the "Press A to continue" screen, Quake Champions crashes straight after the initial screen, Resident Evil REmake just shows black screen (expected this one due to lack of WMP9 which is required in winetricks for it to work properly)... Duck Game doesn't load and just insta-crashes (again expected, as Duck Game requires XNA which can be installed using winetricks in normal wine)

Plan on doing alot more testing.. But more importantly I hope mrdeathdj is doing some testing of his own xD

Hi

I try testing tekken 7 but is so expensive* (dont have enough money)

*Normally bandai namco - tecmo koei is expensive games

^_^

Quoting: tonR

Quoting: tonRTotally Linux newbie questions... Should I try it?

Very tempting to play The Sims 3....

Well, currently downloading The Sims 3. I will test it on Saturday evening or Sunday, depends on my laziness...

You could have checked the compatibility spreadsheet to avoid wasting your time and bandwidth. (Three reports that it does not work.)

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: tonR

Quoting: tonRTotally Linux newbie questions... Should I try it?

Very tempting to play The Sims 3....

Well, currently downloading The Sims 3. I will test it on Saturday evening or Sunday, depends on my laziness...

You could have checked the compatibility spreadsheet to avoid wasting your time and bandwidth. (Three reports that it does not work.)

Aaaah! EA games... #Facepalm ;)

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: tonR

Quoting: tonRTotally Linux newbie questions... Should I try it?

Very tempting to play The Sims 3....

Well, currently downloading The Sims 3. I will test it on Saturday evening or Sunday, depends on my laziness...

You could have checked the compatibility spreadsheet to avoid wasting your time and bandwidth. (Three reports that it does not work.)

Aaaah! EA games... #Facepalm ;)

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: tonR

Quoting: tonRTotally Linux newbie questions... Should I try it?

Very tempting to play The Sims 3....

Well, currently downloading The Sims 3. I will test it on Saturday evening or Sunday, depends on my laziness...

You could have checked the compatibility spreadsheet to avoid wasting your time and bandwidth. (Three reports that it does not work.)

Ahh.. Thank for your headup guys. Already downloaded 4GB!
According to compability spreadsheet, all were tested on NVidia GPU. I'm using low-end AMD GPU. I will try it and give the responds here soon..

Went back to sleep, nite...