A multi-vendor extension for transform feedback in Vulkan is being worked on to help DXVK and others
Commenting on an issue on the Vulkan-Ecosystem GitHub page, an NVIDIA developer has mentioned how transform feedback support will come to Vulkan.
From what I understand, some DirectX games use it and Vulkan currently has no support for anything like it unless developers write their own workarounds. This is especially important for projects like DXVK which Valve's Steam Play uses, because it's translating DirectX calls into Vulkan and so it can't exactly ignore it.
Here's what the fellow from NVIDIA said about it:
Some members of the Vulkan working group are developing a multi-vendor EXT extension for transform feedback with the primary goal of satisfying the needs of the DXVK, vkd3d and ANGLE translation layers. The Vulkan working group does not plan to promote this functionality as a KHR extension or as core functionality because it believes there are better, more forward-looking ways of processing and capturing vertex data with the GPU. The multi-vendor EXT extension should be available soon and is likely to be implemented on those platforms where DXVK, vkd3d and ANGLE translation is required.
In the end, this should hopefully mean that DXVK and Wine or Valve's Steam Play can support more games on Linux. To give you an example of it, the developer of DXVK teased this screenshot in our forum of The Witcher 3 (a Windows game) running on Linux with DXVK with some graphical issues fixed.
Quoting: edoSo after this basically all games (except games with weird drm) will work.Still waiting for the .net fix as that is holding up quite a few of the bigger games, the Batman Arkham titles apart from Origins are some I can name off the top of my head.
Quoting: elmapulProbably not in that particular way. I mean, they want to so bad they can taste it, they'd love to make themselves believe they could get away with it, but basically they know the reason they get to keep selling licenses is that for the end-user Windows seems to be "free" (as in no $$$). They know people wouldn't sit still for subscription-only.Quoting: garpuSo, granted, there is support with DXVK coming from Valve. But if we regular users want to show the devs some appreciation, what's the best way to do it? Do they have a patreon? FOSS projects can flounder and die, when there isn't enough support (financial that is...computers and electricity cost, not to mention programmers need to eat and pay rent.)
I know WINE can be a touchy subject, but if Windows 10 does go subscription only, having an alternative for gaming that's easy, works, and runs with people's favorite games will attract a lot of people to Linux.
i guess what we can do is, keep buying games and playing then on linux.
as for MS shooting then selves in the foot, not gona happen.
In general, Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot repeatedly; their fundamental preinstall advantage is so great that their mistakes have so far cost them little.
Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 9 September 2018 at 10:48 pm UTC
Quoting: Purple Library GuyProbably not in that particular way. I mean, they want to so bad they can taste it, they'd love to make themselves believe they could get away with it, but basically they know the reason they get to keep selling licenses is that for the end-user Windows seems to be "free" (as in no $$$). They know people wouldn't sit still for subscription-only.I don't know, Adobe seem to be doing pretty well with their subscription service, they prove there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to pay & pay & pay & keep paying forever for something that used to be free.
In general, Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot repeatedly; their fundamental preinstall advantage is so great that their mistakes have so far cost them little.
Last edited by lucifertdark on 9 September 2018 at 10:59 pm UTC
Quoting: lucifertdarkQuoting: Purple Library GuyProbably not in that particular way. I mean, they want to so bad they can taste it, they'd love to make themselves believe they could get away with it, but basically they know the reason they get to keep selling licenses is that for the end-user Windows seems to be "free" (as in no $$$). They know people wouldn't sit still for subscription-only.I don't know, Adobe seem to be doing pretty well with their subscription service, they prove there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to pay & pay & pay & keep paying forever for something that used to be free.
In general, Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot repeatedly; their fundamental preinstall advantage is so great that their mistakes have so far cost them little.
adobe products were never free.
and they have features that the free alternatives lack, pay something may be bad but not having an job or taking hours to do some works is worse.
Last edited by elmapul on 12 September 2018 at 4:57 am UTC
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