The amazingly useful SC Controller [GitHub] project, a third-party open source driver and user interface for the Steam Controller has a new release out. Sadly, the last for a while.
Here's what's new in 0.4.5:
- On-screen keyboard can be now used with DS4 gamepad
- Improved editing profile using controller
- Allowed SVG custom menu icons
- Allowed displaying multiple OSD messages, with different font size and display time
- Bug fixes
In the release notes, the developer Kozec said this:
This is last SC-Controller release for a while. With all that mess happening around Linux this week, I've decided to move away as far as possible. I plan to finish all "enhancements" eventually, just not right now.
They went into further detail in a Patreon post, here's the gist of it:
As you probably already heard, earlier this week, Linux became part of political movement. It's movement that I strongly disagree with and wish to not be associated with in any way. Because of that, I don't feel welcomed in Linux community anymore.
Or, to write it like human being, with all this mess, coding is not fun at all.
So I'm throwing hands up and walking through the middle.
For those who don't really understand, it's likely as a result of the new Code of Conduct for the Linux Kernel. Something that has become a hot sticky mess in the wider community. Regardless of my own feelings about the CoC, I just hope people can find a way to get along and treat everyone with respect, regardless of who they are and where they come from.
I'm pretty sad about this, I use SC Controller practically every day for taming the Steam Controller outside of Steam and for those Steam games that don't detect it normally.
Quoting: tuubiQuoting: DolusThe problem is that what "being a dick" means can be arbitrary. Say that I say I don't want to date a particular kind of person because they just don't 'do it' for me.Why would you ever discuss your romantic preferences in the context of a software project? I don't see how it could ever be relevant. This really isn't that hard. The document doesn't care what you do on your own time.
People are being attacked for what they say on social media.
Quoting: Dolustuubi just made the point that what "being a dick" means is far more arbitrary if you don't even have a document to define what "being a dick" is.Quoting: tuubiQuoting: baccilusThat is why the burden of proof lies with the one making an accusation. A vague CoC does away with that.Yet even a vague CoC gives some definition as to what actually is an offence that warrants action and who gets to decide on the verdict. Without a written document, it's all arbitrary. Naturally there needs to be proof of said offence, but that and witnesses are usually easy to provide in these cases. It's the Internet after all.
And please, remember that project management and criminal justice are two very different things. Not being allowed to contribute to a volunteer open source project isn't exactly a death sentence. It might hurt your career of course if your contributions are on behalf of your employer, but there's a simple solution: Treat others with respect and don't be a dick.
The problem is that what "being a dick" means can be arbitrary.
So really, that's a problem with not having a CoC more than with having one.
Quoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: Dolustuubi just made the point that what "being a dick" means is far more arbitrary if you don't even have a document to define what "being a dick" is.Quoting: tuubiQuoting: baccilusThat is why the burden of proof lies with the one making an accusation. A vague CoC does away with that.Yet even a vague CoC gives some definition as to what actually is an offence that warrants action and who gets to decide on the verdict. Without a written document, it's all arbitrary. Naturally there needs to be proof of said offence, but that and witnesses are usually easy to provide in these cases. It's the Internet after all.
And please, remember that project management and criminal justice are two very different things. Not being allowed to contribute to a volunteer open source project isn't exactly a death sentence. It might hurt your career of course if your contributions are on behalf of your employer, but there's a simple solution: Treat others with respect and don't be a dick.
The problem is that what "being a dick" means can be arbitrary.
So really, that's a problem with not having a CoC more than with having one.
Most people don't have a problem with a CoC. It's THIS CoC that is the problem. I don't have a problem with the Ruby CoC, for example.
Quoting: GuestQuoting: DolusQuoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: DolusHere, is a little something that might blow your mind: I do not care. I do not care about a contributors sexuality, religion or political affiliation. If their contributions make Linux a better kernel, they should be allowed to contribute. That is how it should be. Instead we now have these neon haired puritansSo, not their sexuality, religion or political affiliation, but you do care about the colour of their hair.
That is about political 'leanings' as opposed to an official affiliation with any particular party. And that is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. There really is only one group wearing the neon hair right now. And it's not the anime community anymore. And I'm a bisexual deist, btw, so you can take everything else you were trying to imply here and shove it.
I'm about done with this community. Were it not for RMS and GNU taking a stand against this CoC, I'd be done with open source/Free Software in general. This community, on the whole, has been more than happy to go about mocking people like RMS and ESR all day for their lack of social graces FOR DECADES, but, suddenly, sexist bigoted bullies (you want proof, I'll be more than happy to link you to Coraline's Twitter posts) like Coraline Ada are lionized and protected from critical comments.
A year from now Linux is going to end up JUST like FreeBSD. Half of the community is going to pack up and leave because they were accused of being everything from a Nazi (I saved a screen cap, btw) to a *phobe of every variety JUST for believing this CoC is not *just* about playing nice. And this entire thread shows that to be true.
You really are going overboard here. Calm down.
a) Coraline is in no way involved in the Linux kernel. You are bringing her into this discussion when she has nothing to do with it beyond authoring the CoC. And if that's sufficient to destroy a project, you'd best tell Google, Microsoft, Apple, and thousands of Open Source projects that apparently they shouldn't be in existence because they use the same CoC. Let me repeat this: Coraline has _no_ involvement in the decisions made about the CoC as it relates to the Linux kernel. None.
b) RMS disapproves of codes of conduct in general, but otherwise this doesn't affect him. That's all he's said. Hardly "taking a stand".
c) It's really easy to have a discussion disagreeing without stating that half the community will be accused of being a Nazi (and actually, looking back, I don't think you were - but I do see how you might have felt that way). It's not about disagreeing that a few are having problems about with your comments - it's the way you're coming across (hint: not as reasonable). You're own words are aggressive. This will only result in people being aggressive back to you, and you don't then have the right to complain about it. Calm down, at least try be more reasoned, see where it gets you. Believe it or not, I'm trying to help you here.
Oh, so being the author and engineer of the COC is nothing, huh? What if it had been Richard Spencer who wrote it with the idea to promote his views in the open source community? Would you say that was "irrelevant" then? I wouldn't. And RMS has said GNU would NEVER have a CoC like this one; that IS taking a stand. And I literally was implied to be a tiki torch wielding Nazi. I have the screencap.
Last edited by Dolus on 26 September 2018 at 5:04 pm UTC
Quoting: DolusI'm about done with this community. Were it not for RMS and GNU taking a stand against this CoC, I'd be done with open source/Free Software in general. This community, on the whole, has been more than happy to go about mocking people like RMS and ESR all day for their lack of social graces FOR DECADES, but, suddenly, sexist bigoted bullies (you want proof, I'll be more than happy to link you to Coraline's Twitter posts) like Coraline Ada are lionized and protected from critical comments.First, I have always been generally supportive of Richard Stallman. It's my opinion that the backlash against him is essentially corporate in nature--he constitutes something of a threat to the dominant commercial mindset and so he gets marginalized. This has little to do with the nature of the Open Source/Free Software community in specific and much more to do with the nature of the broader society it is in. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to agree with every single word he ever says; I can see him disagreeing with something like this CoC, but that doesn't in itself change my opinion of the matter. Or my generally very positive opinion of RMS. I'm not as big on Eric Raymond, who doesn't strike me as a very similar person even though they're often talked of in the same breath.
Second, you've linked to a bunch of twitter posts and none of them seem to me to mean what you portray them as meaning--in some cases so obviously that I find it hard to buy the notion that you are sincere in believing your portrayal.
Quoting: DolusThat really, really, really isn't how your comments to this point have been sounding. The general tenor has been along the "all limits on how people can talk in lists are nefarious SJW plots cuz they're out to get us" lines.Quoting: Purple Library Guytuubi just made the point that what "being a dick" means is far more arbitrary if you don't even have a document to define what "being a dick" is.
So really, that's a problem with not having a CoC more than with having one.
Most people don't have a problem with a CoC. It's THIS CoC that is the problem. I don't have a problem with the Ruby CoC, for example.
If that's your opinion you might have made it clear, oh, somewhere around the time a bunch of the people you were arguing with expressed that exact same opinion while you were going off on them.
So what's all the heat about then? Do you have some kind of old personal vendetta going with this Coraline person or something?
Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 26 September 2018 at 5:23 pm UTC
Quoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: DolusI'm about done with this community. Were it not for RMS and GNU taking a stand against this CoC, I'd be done with open source/Free Software in general. This community, on the whole, has been more than happy to go about mocking people like RMS and ESR all day for their lack of social graces FOR DECADES, but, suddenly, sexist bigoted bullies (you want proof, I'll be more than happy to link you to Coraline's Twitter posts) like Coraline Ada are lionized and protected from critical comments.First, I have always been generally supportive of Richard Stallman. It's my opinion that the backlash against him is essentially corporate in nature--he constitutes something of a threat to the dominant commercial mindset and so he gets marginalized. This has little to do with the nature of the Open Source/Free Software community in specific and much more to do with the nature of the broader society it is in. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to agree with every single word he ever says; I can see him disagreeing with something like this CoC, but that doesn't in itself change my opinion of the matter. Or my generally very positive opinion of RMS. I'm not as big on Eric Raymond, who doesn't strike me as a very similar person even though they're often talked of in the same breath.
Second, you've linked to a bunch of twitter posts and none of them seem to me to mean what you portray them as meaning--in some cases so obviously that I find it hard to buy the notion that you are sincere in believing your portrayal.
Quoting: Purple Library GuyI have not linked ANY Twitter posts so far. What are you talking about.Quoting: DolusI'm about done with this community. Were it not for RMS and GNU taking a stand against this CoC, I'd be done with open source/Free Software in general. This community, on the whole, has been more than happy to go about mocking people like RMS and ESR all day for their lack of social graces FOR DECADES, but, suddenly, sexist bigoted bullies (you want proof, I'll be more than happy to link you to Coraline's Twitter posts) like Coraline Ada are lionized and protected from critical comments.First, I have always been generally supportive of Richard Stallman. It's my opinion that the backlash against him is essentially corporate in nature--he constitutes something of a threat to the dominant commercial mindset and so he gets marginalized. This has little to do with the nature of the Open Source/Free Software community in specific and much more to do with the nature of the broader society it is in. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to agree with every single word he ever says; I can see him disagreeing with something like this CoC, but that doesn't in itself change my opinion of the matter. Or my generally very positive opinion of RMS. I'm not as big on Eric Raymond, who doesn't strike me as a very similar person even though they're often talked of in the same breath.
Second, you've linked to a bunch of twitter posts and none of them seem to me to mean what you portray them as meaning--in some cases so obviously that I find it hard to buy the notion that you are sincere in believing your portrayal.
Quoting: GuestQuoting: DolusQuoting: GuestQuoting: DolusQuoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: DolusHere, is a little something that might blow your mind: I do not care. I do not care about a contributors sexuality, religion or political affiliation. If their contributions make Linux a better kernel, they should be allowed to contribute. That is how it should be. Instead we now have these neon haired puritansSo, not their sexuality, religion or political affiliation, but you do care about the colour of their hair.
That is about political 'leanings' as opposed to an official affiliation with any particular party. And that is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. There really is only one group wearing the neon hair right now. And it's not the anime community anymore. And I'm a bisexual deist, btw, so you can take everything else you were trying to imply here and shove it.
I'm about done with this community. Were it not for RMS and GNU taking a stand against this CoC, I'd be done with open source/Free Software in general. This community, on the whole, has been more than happy to go about mocking people like RMS and ESR all day for their lack of social graces FOR DECADES, but, suddenly, sexist bigoted bullies (you want proof, I'll be more than happy to link you to Coraline's Twitter posts) like Coraline Ada are lionized and protected from critical comments.
A year from now Linux is going to end up JUST like FreeBSD. Half of the community is going to pack up and leave because they were accused of being everything from a Nazi (I saved a screen cap, btw) to a *phobe of every variety JUST for believing this CoC is not *just* about playing nice. And this entire thread shows that to be true.
You really are going overboard here. Calm down.
a) Coraline is in no way involved in the Linux kernel. You are bringing her into this discussion when she has nothing to do with it beyond authoring the CoC. And if that's sufficient to destroy a project, you'd best tell Google, Microsoft, Apple, and thousands of Open Source projects that apparently they shouldn't be in existence because they use the same CoC. Let me repeat this: Coraline has _no_ involvement in the decisions made about the CoC as it relates to the Linux kernel. None.
b) RMS disapproves of codes of conduct in general, but otherwise this doesn't affect him. That's all he's said. Hardly "taking a stand".
c) It's really easy to have a discussion disagreeing without stating that half the community will be accused of being a Nazi (and actually, looking back, I don't think you were - but I do see how you might have felt that way). It's not about disagreeing that a few are having problems about with your comments - it's the way you're coming across (hint: not as reasonable). You're own words are aggressive. This will only result in people being aggressive back to you, and you don't then have the right to complain about it. Calm down, at least try be more reasoned, see where it gets you. Believe it or not, I'm trying to help you here.
Oh, so being the author and engineer of the COC is nothing, huh? What if it had been Richard Spencer who wrote it with the idea to promote his views in the open source community? Would you say that was "irrelevant" then? I wouldn't. And RMS has said GNU would NEVER have a CoC like this one; that IS taking a stand. And I literally was implied to be a tiki torch wielding Nazi. I have the screencap.
I don't know the reference, but the image I saw looked seriously like a comedy film to me. Something more out of Rocky Horror. That was not calling you a Nazi. Walk through some of the camps and then continue your banter about that.
You're behaviour is terrible. You're trying to call people out on something clearly intended with humour, while stating that a CoC will be used to call people out for social justice reasons. That's really hypocritical of you.
RMS is staying out of _this_ CoC discussion. So you're statement is flawed in that regard. That's from RMS himself.
Who is Richard Spencer? No idea myself. I guess someone unpleasant. But your statement "to promote his views in the open source community" does not apply to Coraline. She wrote a Code of Conduct. Obviously others are finding it reasonable. She's not forcing it upon anyone - she has no power to do so. Even if she tried to use some dubious wording, the TAB has authority and can say "that's not in the spirit of the CoC as the kernel has adopted it". So unless Coraline holds power over the TAB, which she does not, then her views are indeed irrelevant. And if the TAB holds the same views, then again her views are moot because the TAB would already be doing what you fear (which they are not).
You know damn well what the tiki torch is a dog whistle for. Even if you're not an American. Don't play coy.
Quoting: Purple Library GuyIf Linux would have adopted the same CoC as Ruby, I woudn't have said a peep. THAT CoC is fine.Quoting: DolusThat really, really, really isn't how your comments to this point have been sounding. The general tenor has been along the "all limits on how people can talk in lists are nefarious SJW plots cuz they're out to get us" lines.Quoting: Purple Library Guytuubi just made the point that what "being a dick" means is far more arbitrary if you don't even have a document to define what "being a dick" is.
So really, that's a problem with not having a CoC more than with having one.
Most people don't have a problem with a CoC. It's THIS CoC that is the problem. I don't have a problem with the Ruby CoC, for example.
If that's your opinion you might have made it clear, oh, somewhere around the time a bunch of the people you were arguing with expressed that exact same opinion while you were going off on them.
So what's all the heat about then? Do you have some kind of old personal vendetta going with this Coraline person or something?
Quoting: GuestWell, hrm, yeah, but I still thought it was in pretty bad taste. And all that context that was invoked was retroactive--sure, I believe it was there, more or less, but it wasn't specified with the original offending post, and it wasn't specified IMO precisely to leave the non-ironic resonances intact. I would get seriously pissed off if someone did something like that one to me and I would not be appeased by a "where's your sense of humour?"Quoting: DolusQuoting: GuestQuoting: DolusQuoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: DolusHere, is a little something that might blow your mind: I do not care. I do not care about a contributors sexuality, religion or political affiliation. If their contributions make Linux a better kernel, they should be allowed to contribute. That is how it should be. Instead we now have these neon haired puritansSo, not their sexuality, religion or political affiliation, but you do care about the colour of their hair.
That is about political 'leanings' as opposed to an official affiliation with any particular party. And that is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. There really is only one group wearing the neon hair right now. And it's not the anime community anymore. And I'm a bisexual deist, btw, so you can take everything else you were trying to imply here and shove it.
I'm about done with this community. Were it not for RMS and GNU taking a stand against this CoC, I'd be done with open source/Free Software in general. This community, on the whole, has been more than happy to go about mocking people like RMS and ESR all day for their lack of social graces FOR DECADES, but, suddenly, sexist bigoted bullies (you want proof, I'll be more than happy to link you to Coraline's Twitter posts) like Coraline Ada are lionized and protected from critical comments.
A year from now Linux is going to end up JUST like FreeBSD. Half of the community is going to pack up and leave because they were accused of being everything from a Nazi (I saved a screen cap, btw) to a *phobe of every variety JUST for believing this CoC is not *just* about playing nice. And this entire thread shows that to be true.
You really are going overboard here. Calm down.
a) Coraline is in no way involved in the Linux kernel. You are bringing her into this discussion when she has nothing to do with it beyond authoring the CoC. And if that's sufficient to destroy a project, you'd best tell Google, Microsoft, Apple, and thousands of Open Source projects that apparently they shouldn't be in existence because they use the same CoC. Let me repeat this: Coraline has _no_ involvement in the decisions made about the CoC as it relates to the Linux kernel. None.
b) RMS disapproves of codes of conduct in general, but otherwise this doesn't affect him. That's all he's said. Hardly "taking a stand".
c) It's really easy to have a discussion disagreeing without stating that half the community will be accused of being a Nazi (and actually, looking back, I don't think you were - but I do see how you might have felt that way). It's not about disagreeing that a few are having problems about with your comments - it's the way you're coming across (hint: not as reasonable). You're own words are aggressive. This will only result in people being aggressive back to you, and you don't then have the right to complain about it. Calm down, at least try be more reasoned, see where it gets you. Believe it or not, I'm trying to help you here.
Oh, so being the author and engineer of the COC is nothing, huh? What if it had been Richard Spencer who wrote it with the idea to promote his views in the open source community? Would you say that was "irrelevant" then? I wouldn't. And RMS has said GNU would NEVER have a CoC like this one; that IS taking a stand. And I literally was implied to be a tiki torch wielding Nazi. I have the screencap.
I don't know the reference, but the image I saw looked seriously like a comedy film to me. Something more out of Rocky Horror. That was not calling you a Nazi. Walk through some of the camps and then continue your banter about that.
I did think it was crossing the line and I'm glad Liam took it down. It was exactly the kind of thing that a Code of Conduct (or in this case a good moderator) should stop. Just because I find Dolus to be a poor and aggressive communicator doesn't mean suddenly anything goes in communicating back.
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