SC Controller driver and UI version 0.4.5 is out, last release for a while

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Quoting: PinballWizardThis is a big deal- also, why on earth doesn't the steam controller configuration work on the linux client for steam? They have their own Ubuntu-based distribution this is meant to run on so why on earth doesn't it work in Ubuntu itself?

What? Steam Controller on Linux Steam works perfectly well, at least for native games. This tool is helpful for games outside of Steam, for those people who don’t want to use Steam client (the other way to get SC working for non-Steam games is to add them to the Steam library, like one would probably do eg. on Windows).

EDIT: OK, one exception to the perfectly well part. For some reason there is no force-feedback available for Steam Controller on Linux with the Steam client.

So when I was trying to get the controller set up for Dead Cells it just kept defaulting back to the controller's default configuration. I tried a lot of different things but the only answer was using the sc controller UI to configure the buttons. When researching why I was told basically that programming the buttons via big picture mode in Ubuntu just doesn't work; that was basically my experience with it too.

Some games just have issues. Dead Cells is a great game, but it has broken Steam integration in the Linux version, which means you can't configure the SC. That's not Steam's fault or the controller, it's a game issue.

Hopefully they fix that in Dead Cells, been wanting to try it out...

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Quoting: baccilus

Quote"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" ~ Sir William Blackstone

Off Topic: If by letting escape ten guilty persons another ten innocents suffer...

That is a dangerous line of thinking. So people should suffer because of potential crimes?

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Quoting: baccilus

Quote"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" ~ Sir William Blackstone

Off Topic: If by letting escape ten guilty persons another ten innocents suffer...

That is a dangerous line of thinking. So people should suffer because of potential crimes?

Of course not! What I was trying to say is that the original sentence isn't as simple/easy as Blackstone put it. It a much more complex topic than to summarise it in a phrase.

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Quoting: baccilus

Quote"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" ~ Sir William Blackstone

Off Topic: If by letting escape ten guilty persons another ten innocents suffer...

That is a dangerous line of thinking. So people should suffer because of potential crimes?

Of course not! What I was trying to say is that the original sentence isn't as simple/easy as Blackstone put it. It a much more complex topic than to summarise it in a phrase.

That single sentence is one of the most important aspect of the judicial systems around the world. My guess is that it is because it is a lot more harmful for the society to persecute innocents than to let criminals walk free (in absence of convincing evidence). That is why the burden of proof lies with the one making an accusation. A vague CoC does away with that.

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Quoting: baccilus

Quote"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" ~ Sir William Blackstone

Off Topic: If by letting escape ten guilty persons another ten innocents suffer...

That is a dangerous line of thinking. So people should suffer because of potential crimes?

Of course not! What I was trying to say is that the original sentence isn't as simple/easy as Blackstone put it. It a much more complex topic than to summarise it in a phrase.

That single sentence is one of the most important aspect of the judicial systems around the world. My guess is that it is because it is a lot more harmful for the society to persecute innocents than to let criminals walk free (in absence of convincing evidence). That is why the burden of proof lies with the one making an accusation. A vague CoC does away with that.

The judicial systems around the world don't work, though. Hundreds of innocents rot in prison. People that belong to the lowers economical classes, people of different blackground, political prisoners... yet Dictators live free till the end of their lives, Kings that kill endangered animals roam free, corrupt politicians are still in power, etc, etc. Spain, I'm looking at you.

The whole "one is innocent unless proven otherwise" is broken since the government files all info thereis on us or CCTVs are on operation. They do away much more than a vague CoC.

Anyway, let's not go more off topic that we have already xD No need to have a huge debate in the comments, there are always other forums for this :)

Quoting: baccilusThat is why the burden of proof lies with the one making an accusation. A vague CoC does away with that.

Yet even a vague CoC gives some definition as to what actually is an offence that warrants action and who gets to decide on the verdict. Without a written document, it's all arbitrary. Naturally there needs to be proof of said offence, but that and witnesses are usually easy to provide in these cases. It's the Internet after all.

And please, remember that project management and criminal justice are two very different things. Not being allowed to contribute to a volunteer open source project isn't exactly a death sentence. It might hurt your career of course if your contributions are on behalf of your employer, but there's a simple solution: Treat others with respect and don't be a dick.

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Quoting: baccilusThat is why the burden of proof lies with the one making an accusation. A vague CoC does away with that.

Yet even a vague CoC gives some definition as to what actually is an offence that warrants action and who gets to decide on the verdict. Without a written document, it's all arbitrary. Naturally there needs to be proof of said offence, but that and witnesses are usually easy to provide in these cases. It's the Internet after all.

And please, remember that project management and criminal justice are two very different things. Not being allowed to contribute to a volunteer open source project isn't exactly a death sentence. It might hurt your career of course if your contributions are on behalf of your employer, but there's a simple solution: Treat others with respect and don't be a dick.

The problem is that what "being a dick" means can be arbitrary. Say that I say I don't want to date a particular kind of person because they just don't 'do it' for me. A lot of people seem to think that's hate speech.

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Quoting: JoyfulDarterWhat do completely unsourced claims about economics have to do with anything? Really interesting how you had to put the caveat "except in the US" considering Marvel's comic branch is experiencing some incredibly low sales numbers.

Unsourced so I guess you're too lazy to check "comics industry revenue in country X" on google ...
Again both industries all over the world rake in more money than ever but suuuurrrrrreeee being a bit more inclusive ruins everything ...

You are not seriously trying to lump Manga in with comics, are you? Manga is doing well because it has not been politically cowed to a particular world view.

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Quoting: DolusHere, is a little something that might blow your mind: I do not care. I do not care about a contributors sexuality, religion or political affiliation. If their contributions make Linux a better kernel, they should be allowed to contribute. That is how it should be. Instead we now have these neon haired puritans

So, not their sexuality, religion or political affiliation, but you do care about the colour of their hair.

That is about political 'leanings' as opposed to an official affiliation with any particular party. And that is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. There really is only one group wearing the neon hair right now. And it's not the anime community anymore. And I'm a bisexual deist, btw, so you can take everything else you were trying to imply here and shove it.

I'm about done with this community. Were it not for RMS and GNU taking a stand against this CoC, I'd be done with open source/Free Software in general. This community, on the whole, has been more than happy to go about mocking people like RMS and ESR all day for their lack of social graces FOR DECADES, but, suddenly, sexist bigoted bullies (you want proof, I'll be more than happy to link you to Coraline's Twitter posts) like Coraline Ada are lionized and protected from critical comments.

A year from now Linux is going to end up JUST like FreeBSD. Half of the community is going to pack up and leave because they were accused of being everything from a Nazi (I saved a screen cap, btw) to a *phobe of every variety JUST for believing this CoC is not *just* about playing nice. And this entire thread shows that to be true.


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Quoting: DolusThe problem is that what "being a dick" means can be arbitrary. Say that I say I don't want to date a particular kind of person because they just don't 'do it' for me.

Why would you ever discuss your romantic preferences in the context of a software project? I don't see how it could ever be relevant. This really isn't that hard. The document doesn't care what you do on your own time.