Some sad news to wake up to, as No Brakes Games have discontinued Linux support for Human: Fall Flat [Steam].
Here's what they said on a Steam post:
Unfortunately we've made the decision to discontinue Linux support so we can focus on new content and features for Windows and Mac versions. Apologies for this but thank you for your understanding!
Going by SteamDB, it looks like this was done around five days ago.
The Linux version does still exist and it is still playable, but they're no longer advertising it and so it will not get any future updates. It's a sad time when things like this happen, especially when I was quite a fan of the game. Thankfully though, this situation is actually really quite rare.
In the era of Steam Play/Proton, it's not such a massive issue, although it does become a nuisance when they leave an outdated build up since Steam doesn't currently offer a built-in way to pick between Native and Steam Play. Native2Proton is a thing, but it's not as simple as Steam's click and play. So, Linux gamers end up with a subpar experience. It's also not great for people who don't use Steam, since they actually removed Human: Fall Flat from GOG at some point too. Obviously though, it's still not good.
What bugs me about situations like this, is that developers end up being able to drop support for platforms with basically no repercussions. Anyone who purchased it solely for Linux support does have a right to be annoyed, but can they refund it? Not unless you're within two weeks and under two hours play time. You could argue "you got your money's worth", but then you paid for support which you no longer get while other platforms that paid the same still do.
As mentioned though, this situation is quite rare but it's still not great.
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It stings extra hard when they apparently will still keep up the Mac support.
It's a sobering reminder that we are a very, very small fish in the gaming pond.
Last edited by Beamboom on 30 October 2018 at 5:15 pm UTC
It's a sobering reminder that we are a very, very small fish in the gaming pond.
Last edited by Beamboom on 30 October 2018 at 5:15 pm UTC
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Also seems they dropped Linux support without any communication about it. They’ve written the linked comment only after somebody noticed it and explicitly asked about it.
I’m glad I haven’t decided to, when I considered buying this game.
I’m glad I haven’t decided to, when I considered buying this game.
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Sounds to me like the game isn't finished yet and that the QA effort is too much for the Linux version. Even though the game is not in early access!
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I only had that kind of situation with one of the games i was interested.
As some local Linux group , we purchased some copies of Rust on a Steam sale. Game didn't work for nobody. It was crashing to desktop when loading resources half way.
We refunded and explained issue.
Two weeks later , they ended Linux support.
I think that is right call for some companies. If they can't maintain a native version , they should drop it.
As some local Linux group , we purchased some copies of Rust on a Steam sale. Game didn't work for nobody. It was crashing to desktop when loading resources half way.
We refunded and explained issue.
Two weeks later , they ended Linux support.
I think that is right call for some companies. If they can't maintain a native version , they should drop it.
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Unfortunately this has to do as much with our small numbers as the culture of the devs.
As a (non-game) software developer I have been in several projects where we had a mixed team using Windows, macOS, and Linux. As long as we kept a little bit of discipline, and made sure not to break things for each other, it was quite painless to cooperate. But as soon as the team changed to users of the same platform, some small incompatibilities started sneaking in.
Linux support is not a one time task. It's as process.
As a (non-game) software developer I have been in several projects where we had a mixed team using Windows, macOS, and Linux. As long as we kept a little bit of discipline, and made sure not to break things for each other, it was quite painless to cooperate. But as soon as the team changed to users of the same platform, some small incompatibilities started sneaking in.
Linux support is not a one time task. It's as process.
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They did the same for Vive le Roi, but the game was removed from game list as well...
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Quoting: BeamboomIt stings extra hard when they apparently will still keep up the Mac support.
It's a sober reminder that we are a very, very small fish in the gaming pond.
I won't lie, this upsets me. I understand that the macOS market share on Steam is over three times the size of the Linux market share, but still...why? Historically, Apple was never in favour of gaming of any kind. Steve Jobs was against it and now, they've decided to push for their own proprietary graphics API instead of continuing to use OpenGL or even adopt Vulkan.
On another note, I've purchased HFF on GOG a few months ago. It was already inferior to the Steam version due to missing online multiplayer and now this. Ugh.
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I've got the game... this is quite annoying as was something that I bought to support about a year ago. Weird thing is that I don't recall that they made any big update recently (out of the multiplayer). Probably they have something in the oven that won't get into Linux :/
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> Anyone who purchased it solely for Linux support does have a right to be annoyed, but can they refund it? Not unless you're within two weeks and under two hours play time.
I think it's still worth a shot, Valve is sometimes flexible with refunds and dropping Linux is a valid reason. I'd try but I bought it from humble store. :-(
I think it's still worth a shot, Valve is sometimes flexible with refunds and dropping Linux is a valid reason. I'd try but I bought it from humble store. :-(
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Quoting: pb> Anyone who purchased it solely for Linux support does have a right to be annoyed, but can they refund it? Not unless you're within two weeks and under two hours play time.
I think it's still worth a shot, Valve is sometimes flexible with refunds and dropping Linux is a valid reason. I'd try but I bought it from humble store. :-(
This has to be a valid reason.
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Quoting: ArticleThankfully though, this situation is actually really quite rare.Not sure if that statement is really true when you're writing at least one such article every week as of late.
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I didn't notice! I was about to buy it now that it is on sale (it's been on my wishlist for some time).
I don't understand how a developer can stop supporting a game on a platform once they have sold it. I hope they at least offer refunds if someone plays on linux and finds a game breaking bug.
To me the path is clear, game removed from my wishlist and I won't buy any future games from them. Clearly they can't be trusted.
It's a pity, I wanted to play it.
I don't understand how a developer can stop supporting a game on a platform once they have sold it. I hope they at least offer refunds if someone plays on linux and finds a game breaking bug.
To me the path is clear, game removed from my wishlist and I won't buy any future games from them. Clearly they can't be trusted.
It's a pity, I wanted to play it.
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Quoting: YoRHa-2BQuoting: ArticleThankfully though, this situation is actually really quite rare.Not sure if that statement is really true when you're writing at least one such article every week as of late.
Examples? I'm only aware of Rust, which was a couple of months back? At least one article a week?? What am I missing...?
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Quoting: YoRHa-2BNow now, with all due respect that's just not true.Quoting: ArticleThankfully though, this situation is actually really quite rare.Not sure if that statement is really true when you're writing at least one such article every week as of late.
- The Banner Saga, earliest post asking I can find is Feb this year
- Rust, which was back in July and they should add Linux support back eventually.
- Anodyne a few days ago
- Human: Fall Flat
So, that's what, four actually removed? I'm not remembering anything else. That's across this entire year.
I will back this up with data anyone can go back to: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/wiki/Games_that_removed_Linux_support
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Meh, I just recently started playing it with my girlfriend... cross platform play was working pretty well :><:
So... let's speak up against that and be loud as usual. Then the devs might reconsider.
edit: I hate do think about it... but... does it work good enough in proton?
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So... let's speak up against that and be loud as usual. Then the devs might reconsider.
edit: I hate do think about it... but... does it work good enough in proton?
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I think I should change my positive review "...And runs fine on Linux" :><:
Anyone tried the refund?
Anyone tried the refund?
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Quoting: GuestI'm simply stating that it's available, I didn't say anything further about that aspect, let's not put words in my mouth. I also mentioned how it's not great for anyone outside of Steam.QuoteIn the era of Steam Play/Proton, it's not such a massive issue,
Sorry, what kind of statement is this?
What do we need Linux native games, we have wine. And such words on a site like GOL.....
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Last time i tried this game the multiplayer just crashed constantly for me, which made it unplayable. Singleplayer was fine though. It was few good months ago though. Sad to see things like these, instead of fixing the issues they just opt out.
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thelimeydragon Oct 30, 2018
Quoting: TheReaperUKAlso RUINER (https://store.steampowered.com/app/464060/RUINER/) has pretty much dropped Linux support as we did not get the Last Patch also The Mean Greens - Plastic Warfare (https://store.steampowered.com/app/360940/The_Mean_Greens__Plastic_Warfare/) has not drop the last Patch for Linux either, Some Other game i have on Linux also have had no support or patches for a while now.
With the Mean Greens, I was in the Discord. They asked for beta testers a few weeks ago to test the new game mode. I asked if there was a Linux beta. The guy (who's not the programmer) said there wouldn't be beta for Mac/Linux and that they would update when all the kinks with the Windows version are dealt with. I think they only have 1 or 2 programmers on the team.
So I don't think they're dropping it, I assume they'll just update the Mac/Linux versions after Halloween at some point, which is a bit poopy seeing as it's a Halloween themed map.
QuoteJamie Krautkremer - 09/10/2018
no linux beta, we will likely do all beta testing on windows and then do a linux/mac build after everything is setup and working
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