Popular retro-inspired FPS DUSK still coming to Linux, due sometime next year

Quoting: GuestCan someone explain why these "retro" games look worse than Quake, the actual first big 3D FPS?

This is ridiculous. Making a Quake mod in a Quake source port would immediately look better than this.

in terms of art, sound design, and pretty much everything this game is way better than quake 1 and 2. also, it has settings to make it look uglier or better than q1. you can enable bilinear filtering and light flares, or you can artificially pixelate the screen and lower the color pallette to look like it's software rendered. the graphics aren't what matter anyway, it's fun as fuck to play. i've had it since episode 1 and the developers are spectacular people that obviously care for this game. one time i told the owner of the devloper's company that i'd suck his toes for a linux port and he totally rolled with it lol. even if you're not down with the graphics everything else here is stellar, inside and out, and i'd encourage you to give it a try.

I definitely like the art style as well, though I do prefer the sprite-based character models, like Ion Maiden has. They can just convey MUCH more than low-poly 3D models.

Other than that, I'm waiting for this. With a modicum of patience ;)

This game may look old school, but that is the intent. What is lacks graphically it more than makes up for in entertainment and just general fun. There are some AAA games with no soul. This game has soul. If you came expecting a AAA game, DUSK isn't that. Btw, I'm already playing this on Linux, thanks to Proton. I'll take soul over a dull AAA game any day of the week.

I'm a big fan of DOOM, Quake, and similar "old-skool" FPS games (High speed, dodging around, fast-reaction game-play rather than sneaking around and sniping). DUSK was already in my Wishlist, and good to hear progress.

Recently I've been playing a bit of original Painkiller using Proton/Steam Play and it's been working fine. (That's another title with similar play style.)

Quoting: GuestCan someone explain why these "retro" games look worse than Quake, the actual first big 3D FPS?

This is ridiculous. Making a Quake mod in a Quake source port would immediately look better than this.

Quake being the first actual big FPS? Well, I guess if you ignore Doom... but Doom is pretty hard to ignore.

The same assets in a different engine ain't gonna look any better, you're just gonna be artificially limiting yourself to the source port's quirks, hard-coded mechanics, and a probably rather limiting level editor.
Could a Quake source port even have an unlocked y-axis without modification of the source code? I dunno, but it sounds a lot easier to pull of in Unity either way.

Quoting: g000hI'm a big fan of DOOM, Quake, and similar "old-skool" FPS games (High speed, dodging around, fast-reaction game-play rather than sneaking around and sniping) ... Recently I've been playing a bit of original Painkiller using Proton/Steam Play and it's been working fine. (That's another title with similar play style.)

Far more important to me in a retro FPS is an emphasis on solid non-linear level design featuring interesting locales, smart enemy and item placements, and an overall sense of craft. It is why games like Painkiller and Serious Sam just don't do it for me in the way that Doom, Blood, or Duke Nukem 3D do. Thankfully I have heard some encouraging noises that Dusk may also provide just that.

Quoting: GuestHey now, come on, gallery shooters like serious sam are good fun too

They have their place yes, but it annoys me greatly how much they have come to encapsulate the limit of what most people think an old school FPS is. Retro shooters were about so much more. How can we forget that?

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Quoting: GuestCan someone explain why these "retro" games look worse than Quake, the actual first big 3D FPS?

This is ridiculous. Making a Quake mod in a Quake source port would immediately look better than this.

Quake being the first actual big FPS? Well, I guess if you ignore Doom... but Doom is pretty hard to ignore.

Well to be fair, he did say first big "3D" fps

I never really understood the argument of Doom not being 3D, yeah it accomplishes the effect in a bizarre and limited manner, but the end result is a world space which is perceivably three dimensional.
I could probably argue that Quake isn't 3D either and that it's just a bunch of triangles being dynamically warped on screen

I really hope the port is good then. I really want to play Dusk and Amid Evil. Those plus Ion Maiden are the games i wait for most.

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Quoting: Botonoski

Quoting: GuestCan someone explain why these "retro" games look worse than Quake, the actual first big 3D FPS?

This is ridiculous. Making a Quake mod in a Quake source port would immediately look better than this.

Quake being the first actual big FPS? Well, I guess if you ignore Doom... but Doom is pretty hard to ignore.

Well to be fair, he did say first big "3D" fps

I never really understood the argument of Doom not being 3D, yeah it accomplishes the effect in a bizarre and limited manner, but the end result is a world space which is perceivably three dimensional.
I could probably argue that Quake isn't 3D either and that it's just a bunch of triangles being dynamically warped on screen

Well yeah, doom played in a 3 dimensional way.. but the walls, the ceiling, the floor, the gun models, the enemy models.. All 2D based

Where as Quake used actual 3D rendering of the enemy models, gun models ect.

In the end I'd still describe Doom as being 3D as even the True 3D graphics of Quake are an illusion formed by algorithms. Now it's much more complicated and close to life, but it's still justa bunch of 2D triangles being streched, warped, and overlapped on your screen to produce 3D environment and entities.

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Quoting: Botonoski

Quoting: GuestCan someone explain why these "retro" games look worse than Quake, the actual first big 3D FPS?

This is ridiculous. Making a Quake mod in a Quake source port would immediately look better than this.

Quake being the first actual big FPS? Well, I guess if you ignore Doom... but Doom is pretty hard to ignore.

The same assets in a different engine ain't gonna look any better, you're just gonna be artificially limiting yourself to the source port's quirks, hard-coded mechanics, and a probably rather limiting level editor.
Could a Quake source port even have an unlocked y-axis without modification of the source code? I dunno, but it sounds a lot easier to pull of in Unity either way.

I don't ignore DOOM, i play it all the time, but ignore the 3D part and just pretend DOOM is a true 3D game...sigh.

Then make different assets on a tested engine....Ion Maiden??

...unlocked y Axis in quake? huh?

Making different assets on a tested engine? Ion Maiden is the only commercial game I can think of that uses the Eduke32 engine while I could think of hundreds of games which use Unity, I'd say Unity is far more tested than the engine Ion Maiden uses. Also Unity undoubtedly has better documentation as well and that can make all the difference terms of ease of use for the developer. That's all beside the point though, making different assets in a different engine ain't gonna change the developer's artistic skills, unless the dev chooses to hire a proper artist than no matter what engine he uses it'll all likely look pretty bad.

Yeah, in Dusk while your in midair the camera's y-axis is unlocked allowing the player to do midair flips, It's rather fun and unique.