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Aselus Nov 26, 2018
I have 128GB of ram, but can't fill that into the survey, no chance you can add an option?
Beamboom Nov 26, 2018
Just to chime in: I think it's very relevant to make a distinction between Steam Play and Wine, simply cause the user experience is different on a fundamental level. SP is completely transparent. One don't have to do (or know) a single ting related to Wine to run a game on Google Play.


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TheSHEEEP Nov 26, 2018
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I clicked on the text to be included. Then the text changed!

What is this? Black magic?!
Eike Nov 26, 2018
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Quoting: GamewizardQuietly cries about subpar specs like I do every month

Quoting: ElectricPrismGot 2 AMD Threadripper 1950X in the mail and 2x VEGA 64s.

Unboxed the CPU cooler today and good lord does it look beast.

Time to update.

You're aware that everybody hates you?


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Eike Nov 26, 2018
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Quoting: jens
Quoting: TheSyldatIt'll give indications to how many people are willing to take the time to fiddle with wine , versus people who just want a single click play solution that "just work"...

Or in my case, want to make sure that purchases are seen as Linux purchases. The click-and-play experience is "just" the second best reason for me to prefer SteamPlay over wine. ;)

... or getting official support for some of the games.

I'd be interested to know people's reasons for using Proton.
Liam, there used to be special questions i a single survey once upon a time...?


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Liam Dawe Nov 26, 2018
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: jens
Quoting: TheSyldatIt'll give indications to how many people are willing to take the time to fiddle with wine , versus people who just want a single click play solution that "just work"...

Or in my case, want to make sure that purchases are seen as Linux purchases. The click-and-play experience is "just" the second best reason for me to prefer SteamPlay over wine. ;)

... or getting official support for some of the games.

I'd be interested to know people's reasons for using Proton.
Liam, there used to be special questions i a single survey once upon a time...?
The old survey wasn't run by me at all, was a community thing. I can certainly look into a feature of having something unique in certain months and publish some of the most interesting answers (anonymously).
Liam Dawe Nov 26, 2018
I want to keep the Steam Play question simple, which will hopefully make it clear and allow more people to actually answer it.

Do give me some suggestions :)
Eike Nov 26, 2018
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Quoting: liamdaweThe old survey wasn't run by me at all, was a community thing. I can certainly look into a feature of having something unique in certain months and publish some of the most interesting answers (anonymously).

Oh, but you did announce it regularly, right?

I was thinking along the lines...

What's your main reason to use Proton?
[ ] I'm not.
[ ] Easy of use over WINE
[ ] Making my purchases count as Linux sells
[ ] Official support by Valve for the few Proton games I'm playing
Eike Nov 26, 2018
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Quoting: GuestPedantic perhaps, but very important: the last point isnt true. Valve don't support games directly, they support "Proton". They were quite clear about that early on; problems with the game are not the responsibility of Valve. That Valve does give a whitelist of games that are known to run is a different matter again, and is not official support for the game in any way.

I don't find this pedantic. But it does seeem to me Valve is offering support for the whitelisted games (emphasis mine):

QuoteQ: I'm a developer; my game got whitelisted in Steam Play; does this mean I have to support an additional platform?

No; if a game was whitelisted as a result of our testing, we've assessed the experience to be identical (save for an expected moderate performance impact). Users playing through Steam Play experiencing Linux-specific issues should be directed to Steam for support. Keep in mind users were most likely already playing your game using Wine; you just have better visibility into it now.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561
Eike Nov 26, 2018
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Quoting: Guest
Quoting: EikeUsers playing through Steam Play experiencing Linux-specific issues should be directed to Steam for support.

It's support for "Proton", not the game. If there's an update for the game that breaks things, basically Valve can say that they don't officially support the game (although will probably investigate if there's an issue with "Proton" that they can resolve), and the game dev can turn around and say they don't support GNU/Linux (and by extension, wine).

The quote say the opposite, IMHO. If there's an update for the game that breaks things, and you're a user "playing through Steam Play experiencing Linux-specific issues", you "should be directed to Steam for support." Isn't that... clear?
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