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The Steam Play question will emulate the Wine question a bit, the question will be "Steam Play use" with options of:
"I will not use it"
"Waiting on a specific game working"
"In the last month"
"In the last six months"
"More than six months ago"

Okay, so the Wine question will remain as it is, but it will have a note below it which will read:

This includes any derivative of Wine (excluding Proton inside of Steam, see above question for Steam Play).

The Wine question will be after the Steam Play question.

Anyone have any problems with that?

Edit: Updated the Wine question text from suggestion.


Last edited by Liam Dawe on 28 November 2018 at 3:05 pm UTC

Okay, so the Wine question will remain as it is, but it will have a note below it which will read:

This includes any derivative of Wine (like Proton outside of Steam).

Anyone have any problems with that?

...Proton inside and outside of Steam?


Last edited by Eike on 28 November 2018 at 2:49 pm UTC

Okay, so the Wine question will remain as it is, but it will have a note below it which will read:

This includes any derivative of Wine (like Proton outside of Steam).

Anyone have any problems with that?

...Proton inside and outside of Steam?

Well, then obviously (at least if I understand the question right) you would be a yes on both Wine and Steam Play.

You used it outside Steam - So yes to Wine.
You used it inside Steam, so yes to Steam Play.

Okay, so the Wine question will remain as it is, but it will have a note below it which will read:

This includes any derivative of Wine (like Proton outside of Steam).

Anyone have any problems with that?

...Proton inside and outside of Steam?

Well, then obviously (at least if I understand the question right) you would be a yes on both Wine and Steam Play.

You used it outside Steam - So yes to Wine.
You used it inside Steam, so yes to Steam Play.

Ah, that was intentionally. Then I would reverse it:
"This includes any derivative of Wine (except Proton inside of Steam)."

Ah I get what you're saying, I guess some could misinterpret it. Will change.

Any one else have other feedback on that?

feedback

There is no thumbs up smiley! Waaah!
But srsly, the current text looks very clear and should work beautifully. <thumbsupsmiley>

Any one else have other feedback on that?

I'd propose for first question to include Proton in Steam as well, since it's easier to see total value for Wine usage. Otherwise you need to combine percentages.

I.e. it's easy to see two things if you include it:

1. Total number of people who use Wine and any derivative in any possible case.
2. Total number of people who use Steamplay.

I'd say #1 is more interesting than (#1 - #2), i.e. than number of people who use Wine but not Steamplay.

Either way, you can calculate it from both cases, the question is, which metric is more interesting by default.

To make it super easy to look at, you can make 3 questions :) As long as it won't be confusing.

1. Do you use Wine/derivatives in any possible way (includes Steamplay).
2. Do you use Wine/derivatives but not Steamplay?
3. Do you use Steamplay?

You can also calculate one of them, based on the answers for other two and just display it without asking for it explicitly ;)


Last edited by Shmerl on 29 November 2018 at 3:09 am UTC

I regretfully had to change my info to a laptop, since the world has has conspired to prevent me from being able assembling a working desktop:'(, and it isn't like I've never done that before. Some day I'll update my info...

My current rig, an Acer E 15, the model for <$400, is currently the most bang for the buck for <$400 in laptops. An 8th generation i3-8130U, which is no speed demon, but not a slouch, 6GB RAM, 1080p display, 1TB hard drive for /home, an optical drive, Ethernet, a USB2 port and 2 USB 3 ports, a USB-C port(!), HDMI AND VGA. It also has a 3-screw cover to access the RAM slots, and has a slot for an M2 SSD. I use a 64GB SSD for /.

And Ubuntu MATE runs beautifully as can be on it. I compiled the Aqualung music player to do my radio show, which is a gapless music player. It disappeared from the repos, and the PPA is only for Xenial. It runs fast and lean.


Last edited by oldrocker99 on 2 December 2018 at 6:13 pm UTC

an optical drive

I get the other specs, but I have to wonder if you really need this on a regular enough basis to carry it around everywhere? Wouldn't a USB drive you occasionally attach be more than enough for all of your needs? It has certainly been the case for me once USB sticks and HDDs started to come below optical media in the $$/MB metric.


Last edited by MayeulC on 2 December 2018 at 6:53 pm UTC

Yeah, USB optical drive sounds like a good enough solution if you never need one.

Yeah, USB optical drive sounds like a good enough solution if you never need one.

Yes, I am very happy that the laptop has one.

My radio show, BTW, uses a 4TB drive, with months of music.

And, once I figured out how, Aqualung, my go-to music player, isn't all that hard to compile. You need to compile GTK2, and install a raft of -dev libraries, but it compiles just fine. I do recommend it, especially for live concerts, or albums in which the songs run together.


Last edited by oldrocker99 on 3 December 2018 at 2:38 pm UTC