Heroes of Newerth drops support for Linux and Mac

I really had to look it up first.



I got a feeling that I didn't miss much =)

The fact that the s2games homepage is not responding nor found via google has me much more worrying.
Always found their games very hard to get into, because of the steep learning curve and a culture of pros having fun to crash newbies instead of helping them. It was plain frustrating. Anyway, they were among the first studios to jump on the linux train and with passion. :/

Wait, HoN is still around? Last I heard anything about that game was probably 5 or so years ago. Oh well. Doesn't seem like too much of a lose on our part.

I remember way back when S2 released "Savage: The Battle for Newerth". Their trailer was so very attractive, but I probably only played the game once. It was exciting that something so fancy-looking had Linux support but ultimately just not the kind of game I liked. Apparently, many people did like it though. It's a shame the new company isn't as Linux friendly.

I had bought the original Savage, but since I don't generally frame with random strangers, I only once played it at a LAN party and it was pretty fun.

Nice way for them to communicate the change of support. Download link still exists but doesn't work...? Answer is that's intended? Garbage.

Sad. Still one of the best MOBA games out there.

S2 Games fucked up a lot of times and that's why it went downhill and never recovered.

Never heard of that game. I won't miss it either. I don't touch any MOBA game, as that genre consistently seems to attract some of the worst examples of the human species. I can do without getting exposed to that sort of people.

Quoting: GuestDid anyone even play this anymore?

Wellll, we have documented evidence of one Mac user . . .

And nothing of value was lost. I absolutely detest the MOBA genre and HON was the absolute worst that I've tried. I don't know what it's like now, but when I was playing it, it was the only MOBA that deducted money from the entire TEAM for every player death. MOBAs are absolutely rife with toxic player behaviour, but leave it to S2 Games to take the toxicity to the next level with these kinds of mechanics.

That moba had a bad community, but it was the best MOBA I have ever played, very dynamic gameplay compared to other mobas, even dota2

Wow, I am really salty about this one. More reasons to play Dota 2 I suppose.

Linux/Mac installer links are still available. Though, they will certainly stop working when new updates kick in if not already...

http://dl.heroesofnewerth.com/installers/linux/HoNClient.sh
http://dl.heroesofnewerth.com/installers/mac/HoNClient.dmg

https://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?609848-mac-downloand-does-not-work&s=340559d4357545308e6649b714680ba7&p=16651053&viewfull=1#post16651053

Quoting: GuestDid anyone even play this anymore?

Up until last month I still did.. I had about 2-5min queue times so it was alive enough to be commited.

I am really pissed at what Frostburn have done with this game. I had been playing it since Closed beta... Did tones on linux techsupport, was a global moderator, wrote and vetted in-game bots, helped with ogl stuff and SBT.

Then a month or so ago they released the two kongor update (which i hated in SBT) which completely changed the game for the worse as it was simply Kongor's of Newerth as well as BridgeWars (they messed with midwars soo much).

That said, the game was on its final last legs as Garena went into the US offices a couple of months ago and basically immediately terminated peoples contracts and a subset was given extensions of 3months (prob some golden parachute... ) to finalise aspects of the game.
The game is essentially dead in NAEU while in asia it is doing ok.

S2 fked with a good title and WZA sealed it with his bad balancing. It is/was an extremely toxic game but the plays were good. Sadly missed, especially due to all I put in but meh, bad management is bad


I am glad I jumped to DOTA when I did, it has vastly improved from when I first tried it (post launch) and it got me out of HoN before they pulled the rug.


Last edited by Naib on 14 December 2018 at 6:18 pm UTC

Quoting: Naib

Quoting: GuestDid anyone even play this anymore?

Up until last month I still did.. I had about 2-5min queue times so it was alive enough to be commited.

I am really pissed at what Frostburn have done with this game. I had been playing it since Closed beta... Did tones on linux techsupport, was a global moderator, wrote and vetted in-game bots, helped with ogl stuff and SBT.

Then a month or so ago they released the two kongor update (which i hated in SBT) which completely changed the game for the worse as it was simply Kongor's of Newerth as well as BridgeWars (they messed with midwars soo much).

That said, the game was on its final last legs as Garena went into the US offices a couple of months ago and basically immediately terminated peoples contracts and a subset was given extensions of 3months (prob some golden parachute... ) to finalise aspects of the game.
The game is essentially dead in NAEU while in asia it is doing ok.

S2 fked with a good title and WZA sealed it with his bad balancing. It is/was an extremely toxic game but the plays were good. Sadly missed, especially due to all I put in but meh, bad management is bad


I am glad I jumped to DOTA when I did, it has vastly improved from when I first tried it (post launch) and it got me out of HoN before they pulled the rug.

I started HoN Today and started to play and was on the way to buy wards and there was kongor and I was like wtf is this. True the dubble kongor is a bad thing. And when you can run on the side in the forest and come behind and kill one. Because you do not have wards to cover a litle pathway.

But sad news that it going to the grave on Linux and Mac. I loved HoN back in the days when it was in Beta and up to it got Free to play.

Quoting: constThe fact that the s2games homepage is not responding nor found via google has me much more worrying.
Always found their games very hard to get into, because of the steep learning curve and a culture of pros having fun to crash newbies instead of helping them. It was plain frustrating. Anyway, they were among the first studios to jump on the linux train and with passion. :/

I'm going guess that they went out of business at the end of 2017. They released Brawl of Ages which didn't go anywhere. They then abandoned it and tried to resurrect Strife. That also went no where. You can see all of this on their twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/s2games

Looking at glassdoor reviews, it paints a pretty bad picture for the company and explains all of the poor decisions that were made.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/S2-Games-Reviews-E698459.htm

Here is an article on why the CEO sold Heroes of Newerth:

https://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2015/06/ceo_of_video_game_maker_s2_gam.html


Last edited by KohlyKohl on 14 December 2018 at 6:46 pm UTC

Regardless of the current situation, is still a bit sad news though. I remember these games way, way back supporting Linux when few others did.
Edit: and oh, it worked (at least at one point) very well on Linux, I have this comparison from few years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccpP-TAJyus


Last edited by dubigrasu on 14 December 2018 at 7:12 pm UTC

Quoting: dubigrasuRegardless of the current situation, is still a bit sad news though. I remember these games way, way back supporting Linux when few others did.
Edit: and oh, it worked (at least at one point) very well on Linux, I have this comparison from few years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccpP-TAJyus

I remember that, I was working with [S2]Slacker as he was really optimising OGL. I was busy doing regression testing of all artefacts for what he was doing.

The most disappointing out of all this is the Linux build was the easiest and most reliable to maintain. OSX was a pig and windows would break every now and again....

Quoting: toorThat moba had a bad community, but it was the best MOBA I have ever played, very dynamic gameplay compared to other mobas, even dota2

I'd never had exposure to MOBA's when HoN was released for Linux. I installed it and was checking it out, watching some online games, tried to learn a bit of strategy, etc... I decided to jump in to one after a while.. I let everyone know I was a noob, etc. I had one guy say, "great, but gave me a couple basic tips and told me good luck", and everyone else basically rip'ed me and treated me like a pariah... after a couple rounds, I never played again, and uninstalled it after a few weeks. I've never played a MOBA again..

Quoting: inlinuxdude

Quoting: toorThat moba had a bad community, but it was the best MOBA I have ever played, very dynamic gameplay compared to other mobas, even dota2

I'd never had exposure to MOBA's when HoN was released for Linux. I installed it and was checking it out, watching some online games, tried to learn a bit of strategy, etc... I decided to jump in to one after a while.. I let everyone know I was a noob, etc. I had one guy say, "great, but gave me a couple basic tips and told me good luck", and everyone else basically rip'ed me and treated me like a pariah... after a couple rounds, I never played again, and uninstalled it after a few weeks. I've never played a MOBA again..

I remember installing it years ago, might have been 2009 when about the only games available for Linux were Doom 3 and Enemy Territory. It was good, technically at the time though I remember even then it was full of toxic children and I uninstalled it after the first game. I hate MOBA's too and I hope they all go out of business.