The first beta for Lutris 0.5 is out with a refreshed UI and GOG support

Quoting: iiariThere's also the ability to use Proton via Lutris as its own wrapper. So theoretically, for example, you could take another entity's launcher or store (Origin, Discord, and maybe even Epic one day, who knows) and run it USING Proton, through Lutris.

Sure, and you can do it without Lutris as well since Proton is basically a variant of Wine. But it's probably not the best idea, since Proton is too Steam specific. Using Wine with whatever customizations without Steam specific stuff is a better idea in such case.


Last edited by Shmerl on 27 December 2018 at 9:25 pm UTC

Quoting: ShmerlPeople don't use something because of exclusives, but because the platform offers something useful to them.

Call me shallow, but I have purchased the original Xbox (Halo), the GBA (Fire Emblem), my 3DS (Fire Emblem), and my PS4 (Bloodborne) primarily for one game each time. I haven't purchased a Wii U or a Switch yet, but I hear of a Fire Emblem releasing for Switch next year. Yes, I will probably be a sucker then. On the bright side, it's still possible to sell physical media games after you don't play them anymore. (I'm not a collector!)

I wonder how many of the GoG features they're going to let you choose from. Using this API wrapper, I made my own little script with the options I like. For example, of Lutris won't allow me to deselect all the extras that come with a game, I don't think I'll use it. If a lot of options are present, then I won't have to use my own script anymore.

Quoting: jensI guess I wont be popular with my opinion, but I hope that Steam Play/Proton will take that much steam that wrapping Wine/Steam on windows via Lutris will soon no longer be relevant. The reason for my opinion here is that I still think that gaming on Linux will only improve in the long term when Linux hits a significantly higher market share than the current 1%. Playing windows games outside of Proton does not increases Linux visibility.

This is just my opinion, by all means everyone is free to use Linux as one wishes. Note also that I don't talk about making Lutris irrelevant, I know that it wraps more than just Wine.

Mm . . . well, I like Proton (in theory, haven't used it yet), and I don't actually use GOG much, but even for me I have a few games that aren't from Steam, which Lutris will probably at some point help me play. Like I have this old Sins of a Solar Empire CD which I never got working back in the day . . .


Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 28 December 2018 at 5:42 am UTC

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Quoting: ShmerlPeople don't use something because of exclusives, but because the platform offers something useful to them.

Call me shallow

You're shallow!

. . . What? But he told me to!

Quoting: Whitewolfe80

Quoting: jensI guess I wont be popular with my opinion, but I hope that Steam Play/Proton will take that much steam that wrapping Wine/Steam on windows via Lutris will soon no longer be relevant. The reason for my opinion here is that I still think that gaming on Linux will only improve in the long term when Linux hits a significantly higher market share than the current 1%. Playing windows games outside of Proton does not increases Linux visibility.

This is just my opinion, by all means everyone is free to use Linux as one wishes. Note also that I don't talk about making Lutris irrelevant, I know that it wraps more than just Wine.

Nothing is going to grow the linux market place without killer apps there has to be an exclusive that you cannot get on windows/xbox/ps4/switch and it has to stay exclusive to linux nobody is going to switch to linux to play a game they already play perfectly fine on windows they just arent.The mainstream users have no clue that google MS and amazon collect their data and sells it on to marketers no fucking idea and they are happy in their ignorance.I had to spend over an hour once providing tech support to a lady at my old work place because we switched to debian for low end users because of licencing costs. What massive project was she trying to do she had been given a deb file to install and she said am double clicking and the wizard thing is not coming up so i can click next. In the end after throughly losing my patience because i thought she was trolling me. I drove to her site did it for her and she muttered windows was better every two minutes and it's this stupid minux system. That is not a mistype that is what she said. That is the level of user that runs games on windows and you are not going to get them to come to linux when they have to actually learn to do things in terminal to get your system running smoothly.

Sorry, but I wasn't able read your response until the end. I guess the fourth advise from https://github.com/Joshua-Ashton/dxup/issues/29#issuecomment-449862580 which I coincidentally stumbled upon several hours ago applies here too:
"please keep things short; concise; with paragraphs and not like you hit your head on the keyboard several times."

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: jensI guess I wont be popular with my opinion, but I hope that Steam Play/Proton will take that much steam that wrapping Wine/Steam on windows via Lutris will soon no longer be relevant. The reason for my opinion here is that I still think that gaming on Linux will only improve in the long term when Linux hits a significantly higher market share than the current 1%. Playing windows games outside of Proton does not increases Linux visibility.

This is just my opinion, by all means everyone is free to use Linux as one wishes. Note also that I don't talk about making Lutris irrelevant, I know that it wraps more than just Wine.

Mm . . . well, I like Proton (in theory, haven't used it yet), and I don't actually use GOG much, but even for me I have a few games that aren't from Steam, which Lutris will probably at some point help me play. Like I have this old Sins of a Solar Empire CD which I never got working back in the day . . .

Yes, of course it is not black and white and I know there is a difference between purchasing a new game and playing an older game. Your use case is perfectly valid.

Well, I guess I'm just afraid that we Linux people miss our one-time opportunity with Steam Play to show that we have the potential to reach a higher number than the current 1% market share. I'm seeing that quite some people recommend Lutris which could keep the current status quo in place and makes sure that nothing changes, thus people buying games for Windows (where the purchase counts as Windows) and still complain that Linux adoption/usage in the statistics won't increase. Reaching a higher market share is in my opinion the only way to ever break the status quo.

Ah well, lets see how things turn out, hopefully my worries are unjustified :). The next round of GoL statistics is a good start to see if there is a shift on the horizon.


Last edited by jens on 28 December 2018 at 9:15 am UTC

I think you should stop being paranoid about what counts as what. Developers who want to know the potential of the Linux market can already do it, Proton or not. And legacy publishers who don't grok Linux won't care no matter what, so forget about them. They'll come around with the natural market growth.

Quoting: Guestpretty sad that a 3rd party has to put gog support when GOG themselves cannot even put out a launcher.kudos to strider for this cool release.

Well, lots of things to analyze there.
For one thing I don't think Lutris will have the online features GOG Galaxy has (unless it's running a WINE version of the Windows software).
Also, GOOG could very well launch a Linux version while getting the online features ready. After all, the online connections are, as they say, all optional.
Sill, glad Lutris did it! THANK YOU!!

Quoting: Shmerl... with the natural market growth.

My paranoid mind unfortunately says me that market growth is not a natural thing, thus won't happen just like this over some given time ;).