Something that could be rather exciting for AMD enthusiasts, AMD has officially revealed the AMD Radeon VII at CES 2019. On top of that, 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processors are coming.
Getting ahead of the curve a little here, the Radeon VII is built on 7nm which makes it the first consumer-level GPU to be built with it which is interesting. AMD say it's built on an "enhanced second-generation AMD ‘Vega’ architecture" and it seems it will be a decent boost over the current Radeon RX Vega 64.
When compared directly with the RX Vega 64, AMD said it performed up to 27% higher in Blender, up to 27% higher in DaVinci Resolve and they saw up to 62% higher performance in the OpenCL LuxMark compute benchmark.
Some more specs:
- 60 compute units
- 3840 stream processors running at up to 1.8GHz
- 16GB of HBM2 memory (second-generation High-Bandwidth Memory)
- 1 TB/s memory bandwidth
- 4,096-bit memory interface
When it comes to gaming, that was also mentioned as well of course. It's nice to see Vulkan mentioned along side DirectX too! Naturally, they're only going for big Windows games right now but they did say it offered "35 percent higher performance in Battlefield V, and up to 42 percent higher performance in Strange Brigade 1" over the Vega 64 which is quite impressive.
The Radeon VII will be available February 7, 2019 for around $699 USD.
Additionally, they've teamed up with Google to power Project Stream, Googles new cloud gaming service using their Radeon Pro GPUs.
On top of that, 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processors are coming. They will also be built on 7nm tech, based on the Zen 2 core architecture and AMD say it's the "world's first" to support PCIe 4.0 connectivity. Sounds like it's going to be a beast, as they did a preview of it against an Intel i9 9900k where the Ryzen processor came out on top while also using around 30% less power.
They're launching the AMD Ryzen 3000 series sometime in the middle of 2019.
For notebook/laptop users, they also revealed the 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen Mobile processor with Radeon Vega Graphics coming to a range of devices from companies like Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Huawei, Lenovo and Samsung throughout 2019.
You can see their CES 2019 video here.
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TheRiddick 10 Jan 2019
8GB + RT + DLSS Is a much better proposition, because not only will we see RT becoming into its own but also DLSS for 4k users is pretty nice, once games support it. Also 8GB memory means they CAN budge on price in the future.
AMD's 16GB HBM2 is $385 by itself, they can't budge, it will likely be expensive long after the 2080RTX drops in price!!!
AMD's 16GB HBM2 is $385 by itself, they can't budge, it will likely be expensive long after the 2080RTX drops in price!!!
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I don't think you need to worry about ray tracing. It's an overhyped topic.
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i dont see AMD winning here. at least nvidia has a competitor again and i hope both lower the prices for the new generation soon* Works on Linux out-of-the-box
* 16 GB is good when you use 3D modeling software
* 16 GB + high bandwidth is future proof
* FreeSync displays are cheaper
I don't think you need to worry about ray tracing. It's an overhyped topic.Well ray tracing is damn impressive in Battlefield 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYLLvOFSHCU
Is it a gimmick right now? Yes. But the actual results are very promising, so I wouldn't say it's overhyped.
Last edited by Creak on 10 Jan 2019 at 2:43 am UTC
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I mean it's overhyped as in using dedicated hardware for it. But I guess the hype will drive it now.
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TheRiddick 10 Jan 2019
DLSS is the magic bullet for the RTX, being able to boost your FPS by up to %50 without any major penalties is a plus. There are small issues with it atm with flickering and subliminal face details, see how it evolves.
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Last edited by TheRiddick on 10 Jan 2019 at 3:07 am UTC
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i dont see AMD winning here. at least nvidia has a competitor again and i hope both lower the prices for the new generation soon* Works on Linux out-of-the-box
* 16 GB is good when you use 3D modeling software
* 16 GB + high bandwidth is future proof
* FreeSync displays are cheaper
linux users are not AMDs target group. even i would take nvidia (if i had the money) and i always had and have AMD except 1 time a geforce 6600
make a 3D modeling cards then
future proof? hmmmm steam says VRAM
1024 MB 15.44%
2047 MB 21.19%
3071 MB 7.91%
4095 MB 18.85%
2/3 have 4GB and below. i guess it takes a while until game developers can make games with 8GB minimum system requirements, or else they wont sell much
ok freesync is a + for all AMD cards
lets stick with steam statistics. (vega cards are not even listed) most of the steam users buy cheap cards. best price-performance.
Last edited by mylka on 10 Jan 2019 at 3:15 am UTC
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lets stick with steam statistics. (vega cards are not even listed) most of the steam users buy cheap cards. best price-performance.
And Polaris is perfect for this if you are using Linux.
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lets stick with steam statistics. (vega cards are not even listed) most of the steam users buy cheap cards. best price-performance.
And Polaris is perfect for this if you are using Linux.
i bought a 1 year old RX580 8GB recently for only 150€. it is nice to have 8GB vram, but not even assassins creed needs it
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i bought a 1 year old RX580 8GB recently for only 150€. it is nice to have 8GB vram, but not even assassins creed needs it
dxvk quite clearly benefits from more VRAM. Not all games use it fully, but it can be used to avoid extra RAM to VRAM copying.
Last edited by Shmerl on 10 Jan 2019 at 3:27 am UTC
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i bought a 1 year old RX580 8GB recently for only 150€. it is nice to have 8GB vram, but not even assassins creed needs it
dxvk quite clearly benefits from more VRAM. Not all games use it fully, but it can be used to avoid extra RAM to VRAM copying.
but still: 8GB are very future proof
new tomb raider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeQG9AMmj2E
4,5GB with DXVK
hitman 2 not even 4GB with DXVK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFTM2ZYxU0w
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Sure, but I mean that 8 is still better than 4. 8 should be the today norm with some margin for the future. 16 is an overkill.
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TheRiddick 10 Jan 2019
The vram usage is largely dependent on your resolution, allot of people still playing at 1080p.
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but thats the point
by the time games need more than 8GB, u need a new card anyway because even the 2080TI will be to slow
by the time games need more than 8GB, u need a new card anyway because even the 2080TI will be to slow
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i dont see AMD winning here. at least nvidia has a competitor again and i hope both lower the prices for the new generation soonDefine "winning". I don't see AMD managing to take 50%+ of the market with this, no. But their share is currently pretty low, right? So taking significantly more than they do right now would be "winning" from a lot of perspectives; if this card can sell even 25% as many as the equivalent NVidia card, they'll be feeling good.
Meanwhile, little note about marketing language use:
up to 42 percent higher performance in Strange Brigade 1"Translation: It's mostly about the same, but there's this one spike 2/3rds of the way through the game . . . :P
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TheRiddick 10 Jan 2019
but thats the point
by the time games need more than 8GB, u need a new card anyway because even the 2080TI will be to slow
GTAV uses I think 10GB or so at 4k on max settings, its pretty old. So certainly games use that vram today.
In saying that 8GB would be just fine for AMD if they use their VRAM caching tech whatever it was. Unfortunately they need 4 chips to get the bus speed needed.. HBM2 does not come in 2GB modules, which is quite unfortunate.
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I understand everyone focusing on games here, but I'm pretty sure 3D modeling and video editing software needs a lot of VRAM.
I don't remember who said this, but I agree that this new card it a cross over desktop and workstation.
Last edited by Creak on 10 Jan 2019 at 6:04 am UTC
I don't remember who said this, but I agree that this new card it a cross over desktop and workstation.
Last edited by Creak on 10 Jan 2019 at 6:04 am UTC
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8 GB is fine today, but for FullHD resolution. For 4k and for future games you'll definitely want as much VRAM as possible. I'd rather choose this over Nvidia's 8 GB. Also, raytracing is just another marketing bullshit by Nvidia.
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8 GB is fine today, but for FullHD resolution. For 4k and for future games you'll definitely want as much VRAM as possible. I'd rather choose this over Nvidia's 8 GB. Also, raytracing is just another marketing bullshit by Nvidia.
And they used 4K benchmarks. Still I'm hoping that Navi isn't too delayed and that AMD is somehow able to get multi-GPU made standard with this generation as they have used Strange Brigade to show off what they can do with it using Vulkan.
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Radeon VII seems disapointing to me. Same power consumption aka 300W and just around 25% faster than vega 64. Matching RTX 2080 on AMD picked benchmarks and is well ahead on 1 game, but the price is pretty close to RTX 2080 and power usage is insane compared to this. If the MSRP was 100 dollars less, it would be pretty good though.
As of Ryzen 3000 series, not much was shown sadly. Some random game benchmark with Radeon VII, where Lisa said it was just 1080p maxed (i guess she made a mistake there, it probably was 4K) and just 100+ FPS without GPU not even being fully utilized, shows like Ryzen was the bottleneck there. Cinebench was pretty impressive though, but AMD CPUs have always been good in multithreading and Cinebench.
I was expecting some teasers to Navi also, but seems there was none atm. And ofc i was hoping for Ryzen 3000 launch date annoucement.
Quite disapointing keynote if you ask me, most was just some idiotic marketing bullshit, but well its what those PR presentations always have been
As of Ryzen 3000 series, not much was shown sadly. Some random game benchmark with Radeon VII, where Lisa said it was just 1080p maxed (i guess she made a mistake there, it probably was 4K) and just 100+ FPS without GPU not even being fully utilized, shows like Ryzen was the bottleneck there. Cinebench was pretty impressive though, but AMD CPUs have always been good in multithreading and Cinebench.
I was expecting some teasers to Navi also, but seems there was none atm. And ofc i was hoping for Ryzen 3000 launch date annoucement.
Quite disapointing keynote if you ask me, most was just some idiotic marketing bullshit, but well its what those PR presentations always have been
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Duke Takeshi 10 Jan 2019
How is the current state of AMD and linux compatibility?
When I started switching from Windows to linux, I always bought Nvidia GPUs because the AMD drivers were complete rubbish.
When I started switching from Windows to linux, I always bought Nvidia GPUs because the AMD drivers were complete rubbish.
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