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Something that could be rather exciting for AMD enthusiasts, AMD has officially revealed the AMD Radeon VII at CES 2019. On top of that, 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processors are coming.

Getting ahead of the curve a little here, the Radeon VII is built on 7nm which makes it the first consumer-level GPU to be built with it which is interesting. AMD say it's built on an "enhanced second-generation AMD ‘Vega’ architecture" and it seems it will be a decent boost over the current Radeon RX Vega 64.

When compared directly with the RX Vega 64, AMD said it performed up to 27% higher in Blender, up to 27% higher in DaVinci Resolve and they saw up to 62% higher performance in the OpenCL LuxMark compute benchmark.

Some more specs:

  • 60 compute units
  • 3840 stream processors running at up to 1.8GHz
  • 16GB of HBM2 memory (second-generation High-Bandwidth Memory)
  • 1 TB/s memory bandwidth
  • 4,096-bit memory interface

When it comes to gaming, that was also mentioned as well of course. It's nice to see Vulkan mentioned along side DirectX too! Naturally, they're only going for big Windows games right now but they did say it offered "35 percent higher performance in Battlefield V, and up to 42 percent higher performance in Strange Brigade 1" over the Vega 64 which is quite impressive.

The Radeon VII will be available February 7, 2019 for around $699 USD.

Additionally, they've teamed up with Google to power Project Stream, Googles new cloud gaming service using their Radeon Pro GPUs.

On top of that, 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processors are coming. They will also be built on 7nm tech, based on the Zen 2 core architecture and AMD say it's the "world's first" to support PCIe 4.0 connectivity. Sounds like it's going to be a beast, as they did a preview of it against an Intel i9 9900k where the Ryzen processor came out on top while also using around 30% less power.

They're launching the AMD Ryzen 3000 series sometime in the middle of 2019.

For notebook/laptop users, they also revealed the 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen Mobile processor with Radeon Vega Graphics coming to a range of devices from companies like Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Huawei, Lenovo and Samsung throughout 2019.

You can see their CES 2019 video here.

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johndoe86x Jan 10, 2019
Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: johndoe86xI was hoping AMD would knock it out of the park. They are competing on the 2080 level, but in order to bring these Nvidia-driven monopolistic prices back down so that the Nvidia xx60 lineup is actually budget/mainstream again this won't cut it.

Navi might offer something cheaper but still high end.

Here's to more hoping. The latest leak according to AdoredTV is that the Navi dev team wanted to "let it bake" a bit longer and had to scrap plans to announce it at CES. Radeon VII isn't even a gaming card. It's a "defective" MI50 card that couldn't be used in the datacenter, so they placed display out on it and steered it towards content creator/game hybrids just like with the Vega FE.
Purple Library Guy Jan 10, 2019
Quoting: Guest
Quoting: sub
Quoting: lelouch
Quoting: cRaZy-bisCuiT7 nm but only GTX 2080 performance? Why? For the same price?

Nice only because we got a open well performing driver on Linux for AMD. Still I'm not much impressed.

Half of the structure (14nm -> 7nm) cannot bring you double of the performance, because the are negative physical effects working against you (read a physics book for details).

Integration density ideally scales quadratically with the inverse of the structure size.
Hence, half the structure size should roughly result in a 4 times higher integration density.

Yet there are many contribution of losses that do not allow performance to scale linearly with the integration density.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)

I have been told after the 22nm process the advertised number should not be taken too literally. Circuits are not engraved like labyrinths with tidy vertical walls. There are made of several layers of material. Each one having a different width. So a 7nm process does not necessarily have the double of the density of a 14nm process.

I do not know much more. :)
Well, and when you get down to that size I'd be willing to bet you're restricted in how narrow you can make some things because at a certain point, making things any narrower would increase resistance too much.
tony1ab Jan 10, 2019
Quoting: Dorrit
Quoting: [email protected]Really? You know the price of the comparable RTX 2080 is US$799.00?
Which makes it obscene.


Planned obscenescence.


Last edited by tony1ab on 10 January 2019 at 10:03 pm UTC
Shmerl Jan 10, 2019
Quote“You will hear more about Navi in 2019,” said Dr. Lisa Su. “It’s a very active graphics cycle for us.”
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ceo-lisa-su-ces-2019/
tonR Jan 11, 2019
After read on Twitter about Radeon VII last 1-2 days, I can say people who disappointed with Radeon VII, especially the price are Nvidia fans who were wish cheaper AMD = Nvidia dropping price. Their 'excuse' are no RTX = 1080Ti, better buy 1080Ti.

Personally, I waiting the AMD announcement on low/mid-range GPU. All NVidia cards are out of my reach. Even 1030 is still expensive nowadays, after crypto-currency craziness crashed.
Shmerl Jan 14, 2019
When building a PC, stability and sanity are more important. Constant crashing and hangs isn't something you want to save for. So avoid first generation Ryzens completely.


Last edited by Shmerl on 14 January 2019 at 3:03 pm UTC
titi Jan 15, 2019
Quoting: Guest
Quoting: ShmerlYou should avoid first generation Ryzens, including mobile ones. They have unfixable hardware issues (with some workarounds only). That's a known problem. Second generation mobile APUs are coming this year.

When building a PC, performance per dollar is a very important value.First generation Ryzens are cheaper and easy to make stable, you should use Bios settings anyway.

MB firmware update and set (may be named differently on your board): 'Advanced->CBS->Power Supply Idle Control' set it to 'Typical current idle'

I did all this , use the newest kernel, the latest mesa driver and so on, disabled C6 and so oń. I am quite sure that its not related to the power management of the CPU, those bugs were solved/worked around in 2018. Those freeze problem which still exist are more likely a GPU problem.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1772081
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1562530
or any of the other bugreports
Shmerl Jan 15, 2019
Quoting: GuestFirst generation Ryzens processors are stable with correct Bios settings. Most motherboard vendors have updated AGESA.

It was for me and I replaced it anyway, since it eats more power with those "fixes". But for some even latest AGESA and UEFI didn't help. So my general advise is to avoid broken hardware. Second generation Ryzens already don't have that problem.


Last edited by Shmerl on 15 January 2019 at 2:06 am UTC
Shmerl Jan 15, 2019
Ryzen 2 is fine. But I'd recommend avoiding Asus motherboards indeed. They aren't a very good option.
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