NVIDIA have put out a new Vulkan beta driver with better pipeline creation performance

Quoting: jensNo NVidia (or Intel/AMD whatever) manager has ever beaten me, so I really feel no need to call one ever a jerk :). I'd state that I don't agree, vote with my wallet and just move on.

That's not going to work as in "let's accept this jerk behavior". If you don't like criticism of Nvidia's bad practices, you can skip reading it :)


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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: jensNo NVidia (or Intel/AMD whatever) manager has ever beaten me, so I really feel no need to call one ever a jerk :). I'd state that I don't agree, vote with my wallet and just move on.

That's not going to wrok as in "let's accept this jerk behavior". If you don't like criticism of Nvidia's bad practices, you can skip reading it :)

Actually there is nothing wrong with reading fair and objective criticism of NVidia or whatever vendor/organization. Name calling is something else imho. I interpreted you initial posting as the latter one.

But yeah, blocking users or skip reading GOL is indeed a valid alternative too. :)

Back on topic: "Better pipeline creation performance when there is a cache hit" sounds indeed interesting, I would be curious to know how much performance win it yields in real life scenarios.

Quoting: jensActually there is nothing wrong with reading fair and objective criticism of NVidia or whatever vendor/organization. Name calling is something else imho.

I consider it fair to call such behavior jerk. They totally deserve it. They aren't doing it out of some technical difficulty or the like. It's clearly anti-competitive. If you like whitewashing such things, don't expect everyone should.


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Quotethere is this PPA which sadly hasn't been updated since October last year

Isn't that only the development GPU drivers? This PPA has received many updates, as late as last month (2018-12-20).

@Shmerl & @Jens

Get a room!!!

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Quotethere is this PPA which sadly hasn't been updated since October last year

Isn't that only the development GPU drivers? This PPA has received many updates, as late as last month (2018-12-20).

Yes, they're two different PPAs run by the same team. The one I linked to holds these beta drivers hence me mentioning it.

Quoting: mahagrnVidia drivers are bad quality which is likely the main reason why they do not open up the code. I'm frustrated on their drivers as they force the card to run on maximum power for 45 seconds every time there's an opengl draw call. Basically it means that if you install Ubuntu and use default Gnome (which uses opengl X composite extension), your graphics card never goes into powersave state and consumes ~4x more power than it should. They have the same issue in Windows, but because of architectural differences it's not as bad in there.

I guess they do that because of nobody has bothered to implement proper power saving feature and because of not running the card in maximum power makes the cards to look bad in benchmarks. IMHO they really should fix the issue and allow cards to run on optimal clocks as laptops get more and more common. :)

You sure about that? I've set mine in power save mode and it doesn't seem to jump around when I use Gnome. Granted, I also set the powermizer settings in my laptop.

Quoting: mahagrI'm frustrated on their drivers as they force the card to run on maximum power for 45 seconds every time there's an opengl draw call. Basically it means that if you install Ubuntu and use default Gnome (which uses opengl X composite extension), your graphics card never goes into powersave state and consumes ~4x more power than it should.

I guess they do that because of nobody has bothered to implement proper power saving feature and because of not running the card in maximum power makes the cards to look bad in benchmarks.

For gaming purposes I prefer this behavior though. Previously it used to jump down in powersave mode much too early and that used to happen even while gaming (during light loads), leading to brief stutter from time to time.
At the same time I don't remember the drivers stuck on performance mode while in desktop mode, sure the modes were alternating depending on desktop activity, but stuck on max power, no.

ARCH AUR has already been updated but for some reason it hasn't hit my specific repo server yet. Guess it takes time.