Here's a fun statistic for you today! Steam Play, Valve's fork of Wine which includes DXVK has recently hit 500 titles rated as "Platinum" when going by ProtonDB reports.
So that's 500 games, that aren't supported by the developer on Linux that should for the most part be click and play from within the Steam client on Linux. If we include games trending towards a Platinum rating, it's even higher at 569. That's pretty impressive considering Steam Play hasn't been out for too long. It's worth mentioning though of course, that Wine has been around for a long time.
This list of 500 games includes titles like Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE, Heat Signature, Shadow Warrior 2, Outlast 2, Hitman 2: Silent Assassin, Red Faction Guerrilla Steam Edition and a lot more interesting titles.
Even so, a lot of this comes down to the vast improvements coming in quickly to the DXVK project which had 28 releases last year and it's not even finished yet. Most recently, DXVK gained improvements to fix issues with FIFA 19 so Football fans will probably enjoy the next DXVK release (and so the Steam Play version that pulls in the update).
I will keep an eye on it and see how the ratings change across this year. Regardless of how some feel about Steam Play, I do think it was a very smart move from Valve and look forward to following the progress. I still have reservations about the short-term and long-term impact of it but Linux gaming simply wouldn't go anywhere with 3-4 AAA releases supported a year and it's far more enticing for users to use Linux if their current games work.
Quoting: liamdawe500 games, that aren't supported by the developer on Linux
Did anyone actually check if those titles are truly not supported? There are games like Shank 2 that have official Linux support on Steam but aren't marked as native on ProtonDB. I guess you can still proton-run a Windows version on Linux if you want but I don't think that's the point of the article.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I think many reports hurt ProtonDB more than they help because of people enthusiastically overstating the matter of things and marking games as Platinum while clearly adding a comment that says a workaround was used.
Also, adding a report with old driver marks it as informational, i.e. it doesn't seem to count towards the status.
Quoting: cprnProtonDB shows it supports Linux, it has a Linux icon and all just no reports it seems.Quoting: liamdawe500 games, that aren't supported by the developer on Linux
Did anyone actually check if those titles are truly not supported? There are games like Shank 2 that have official Linux support on Steam but aren't marked as native on ProtonDB. I guess you can still proton-run a Windows version on Linux if you want but I don't think that's the point of the article.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I think many reports hurt ProtonDB more than they help because of people enthusiastically overstating the matter of things and marking games as Platinum while clearly adding a comment that says a workaround was used.
Also, adding a report with old driver marks it as informational, i.e. it doesn't seem to count towards the status.
Quoting: liamdaweQuoting: cprnProtonDB shows it supports Linux, it has a Linux icon and all just no reports it seems.Quoting: liamdawe500 games, that aren't supported by the developer on Linux
Did anyone actually check if those titles are truly not supported? There are games like Shank 2 that have official Linux support on Steam but aren't marked as native on ProtonDB. I guess you can still proton-run a Windows version on Linux if you want but I don't think that's the point of the article.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I think many reports hurt ProtonDB more than they help because of people enthusiastically overstating the matter of things and marking games as Platinum while clearly adding a comment that says a workaround was used.
Also, adding a report with old driver marks it as informational, i.e. it doesn't seem to count towards the status.
Until 2 days ago, ProtonDB used SteamDB directly to check for native linux games and Shank2 was actually not marked as a linux title on SteamDB. I wrote a bug report for SteamDB and contacted ProtonDB on discord about this issue. Not sure, where it was fixed, but cprn was right that there was a problem.
Edit: There is still a Problem:
https://steamdb.info/app/102840/
Also, https://www.protondb.com/explore?page=0&selectedFilters=restrictToLibrary%2Cuntested&sort=playerCount still shows Shank2 to me, although native titles should be filtered.
Edit2: My bug report was closed and I'm a little angry about it:
https://github.com/SteamDatabase/steamdb.info/issues/606
Last edited by const on 14 January 2019 at 5:36 pm UTC
Quoting: constEdit2: My bug report was closed and I'm a little angry about it:Angry why? They're right. Speak to the developer.
https://github.com/SteamDatabase/steamdb.info/issues/606
Also, I especially mentioned Shank2 is marked as a linux title in the shop and wonder what's the difference to the other titles. Are there actually separate oslists, one for SteamDB and one for the shop?
I didn't get involved because of these 3 individual games, but because I fear there is a systematic problem here, decreasing the value of ProtonDB statistics.
The thing is, Steam client itself doesn't care for oslist. As soon as there is a linux repo, the linux version will run by default.
So angry is the wrong word, more a little frustrated. ;)
I wrote to the 3 devs, anyway.
Last edited by const on 14 January 2019 at 8:45 pm UTC
"102840": true,
Is there an official information from SteamDB about why they don't list Linux in "supported systems" for Shank 2 or how often they refresh app details (Shank 2 is last checked 5 months ago)? I read the FAQ but nothing about it there.
Both games have official Linux support on Steam and "platforms.linux: true" + "linux_requirements" are present in app details for both: Shank 1 and Shank 2. I have no idea why when you search for shank the top 2 results will be Shank 1 and 2 - one marked as native, one not.
I'm using Shank as example because it's easy to remember but I know I've seen more similar entries on ProtonDB.
If you look at the os symbols on https://steamdb.info/app/102840/ , Linux is missing there, too.
ProtonDB chat redirected me to SteamDB, SteamDB redirected me to the developers. I contacted the developers and informed ProtonDB chat. ProtonDB chat agreed with SteamDB staff. So, this is how it is.
Last edited by const on 16 January 2019 at 4:06 pm UTC
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