The Steam Play tracker ProtonDB just recently put out another set of reports, so here's another look at some interesting findings when going over the data. As a reminder, ProtonDB is not an official Valve site and everything should be taken with a healthy pinch of salt. That said, it's still fun to take a look at the data it provides.
First up, ProtonDB is getting ridiculously big now with over 36,786 reports in total and quite a few were done this month:
Nice to see a bit of a surge there, likely helped by some big releases last month. Not just the games though, we also had the Steam Play Proton 4.2 beta release during last month causing a bit of hype. I imagine we will see a surge every time there's a few noteworthy releases on Steam.
Let's break it down a bit and see what types of reports Steam Play was getting for March:
Impressive, very impressive! So many platinum reports.
While that's all quite interesting, the most important thing to know is what games are being reported? No guessing will be needed to see what games are popular this time around! With Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice and Risk of Rain 2 being newer entries, both getting quite a lot of reports.
Let's look a bit closer though, for the reports what games were getting the most Platinum ratings last month? These are the games you should expect to be click and play:
Very surprising to see such a high-profile release such as Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice get so many good reports. This is showing the power of Steam Play and what it can achieve, when we get the ability to play games like that at release with no waiting around. I will actually be taking a personal look at Risk of Rain 2 this week, since it was gifted by a reader (thanks archtoasty!).
For those interested, you can also see a little more info about the computers people are reporting with:
Usual note about "Other": lots of the reports don't include a specific distribution name. Where we're unable to properly identify them when scraping the data dump, we bundle them together. This can be caused by multiple things, so hopefully in future ProtonDB can make this clearer.
As for what version of Proton people have been using, 3.16-8 remains the most popular with 1,558 reports in March although Proton 4.2-1 is already closing in on 500 reports.
For those interested, the raw data can be found on GitHub.
Quoting: BielFPsQuoting: scaineI mean, Subnautica is still Silver on the site, but is at least a gold. And with a simple "-forcegl", it's a Platinum
This one I think it should be gold if require a tweak, even if it's a small one. Imagine that most people don't even know this command without search in the internet first. Platinum should be only for games working by just launching it, and gold if just require a little tweak like your example.
I guess you didn't read where I said:
Quoting: scaine(yeah, yeah, I know what "Platinum" means, but you get my point... it's a trivial fix).
I was being facetious, but I honestly think there's a too big a jump between gold and platinum. If all you have to do is add a -forcegl flag to the startup, that's a far cry from some gold games which require all sorts of protontricks commands to get them working.
Quoting: BielFPsQuoting: scaineSo I'd really like to say "Only show me Proton 4.2 reports, and only for Nvidia". And if I can get a "Only Ubuntu", so much the better.
Isn't only Nvidia already? :)
The vast majority of reports there are from Nvidia users.
Not really "vast majority". The graph in the article shows us just under 2300 reports from Nvidia users in March, with just under 1800 reports from AMD and Intel users.
Quoting: scaineI guess you didn't read where I said:
I did, and I say again that even if it's a small tweak, it requires that you have outside knowledge for this. the "Platinum" should be just for install and play like native games, and not just because a game runs as good as.
Quoting: scainebut I honestly think there's a too big a jump between gold and platinum.
It shoudn't, that's a problem with users feedback. Most of then just put gold/platinum status without testing all the resources of a game. That's why we have silver/bronze too.
Quoting: scaineThe graph in the article shows us just under 2300 reports from Nvidia users in March, with just under 1800 reports from AMD and Intel users.
I was being sarcastic, even though if you check any AAA games, you will mostly see Nvidia users. You have to search more if you want to see Mesa users feedback.
Quoting: BielFPsWe'll agree to differ then.Quoting: scaineI guess you didn't read where I said:
I did, and I say again that even if it's a small tweak, it requires that you have outside knowledge for this. the "Platinum" should be just for install and play like native games, and not just because a game runs as good as.
Quoting: BielFPsAnd again. We're not seeing eye to eye here. My point is that the feedback system is pretty broken. It was broken on WineHQ and it's pretty broken here too. The common fault is "people", I think...Quoting: scainebut I honestly think there's a too big a jump between gold and platinum.
It shoudn't, that's a problem with users feedback. Most of then just put gold/platinum status without testing all the resources of a game. That's why we have silver/bronze too.
Quoting: scaineThe graph in the article shows us just under 2300 reports from Nvidia users in March, with just under 1800 reports from AMD and Intel users.
I was being sarcastic, even though if you check any AAA games, you will mostly see Nvidia users. You have to search more if you want to see Mesa users feedback.[/quote]...not my experience, which is why I'd like a filter by GPU. Maybe we play different AAA games. Who knows.
Quoting: scaineThe common fault is "people", I think...
Agree
Quoting: scainewhich is why I'd like a filter by GPU. Maybe we play different AAA games. Who knows.
Maybe, but I totally agree with a gpu filter.
Quoting: scaineWe'll agree to differ then.
Please don't get me wrong, I totally understand your point of view :)
It's just that when I see a platinum game, I like to imagine my "Average Joe" friend trying to play a game on Linux without any knowledge about wine/proton etc, playing a game out of the box like they do with a console or Windows in most cases.
This is what I personally consider to be a "Platinum" experience.
Valve probably think this way too, that's why they just take feedbacks from github and not protondb. A small tweak may be simple for those who has a lot of experience, but it is too hard to a common user to do by himself.
Anyway, I hope they improve the feedback system in a near future, since this is a great help for "Gaming On Linux".
I bit the bullet and bought two windows-only games for once, this one and No Man's Sky. ROR2 worked out of the box for me, and online multiplayer with a friend on windows worked great (we used to play ROR together with local co-op). You'll definitely want to invite some friends over, Liam ! (Although it's still quite fun in singleplayer).
I hope they'll see the Linux numbers, but the game seems to have had a warm reception on Windows as well :)
same with metro3. i havent tried it, but it has some platinum, because its the same engine like metro 1+2 and they work ootb
games with unreal engine are most likely to run ootb. darksiders 3, tropico 6, life is strange, mutant year zero, NBA, The Awesome Adventures of Captain Spirit, vampyr, visage, we happy few, ark, die young, hellblade, Little Nightmares, rime, styx, etc
thats why it is so sad, that obsidian doesnt bring The Outer Worlds to steam this year. i am pretty sure it also would run with proton
DIAMOND, for true "click and play" out of the box experiences, and leave PLATINUM for games that needs "PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1" or something like that in the game launch options for to play properly..
GOLD status should be for when you have to, manually, install a library or modify some files inside the prefix for to play properly.
Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI think that PROTONDB must add a new Steamplay rating:
DIAMOND, for true "click and play" out of the box experiences, and leave PLATINUM for games that needs "PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1" or something like that in the game launch options for to play properly..
GOLD status should be for when you have to, manually, install a library or modify some files inside the prefix for to play properly.
I actually think that Valve will just end up building a database of switches for each game into Proton itself. That way, if you have a certain card/config, it'll know to do a certain switch. Should be seamless, and of course, you can still override with the existing launch parameter if required.
I expect they will soon get Proton to the point where everything is either borked, or platinum. And then they keep working on the borked titles.
Quoting: hummer010Grim Dawn is finally fixed!! I'm glad to see that - time to re-install!
It works well, but with Proton 4.2 I've started to get the flickering that a few other people have reported. No issues when using the /d3d9 switch, but in that case I don't think it should be rated "Platinum". Very shiny Gold maybe.
Quoting: jarhead_hit's sad to see most people using products for a company that doesn't care about helping open source.
Maybe one day AMD will start making top end cards that can fit in a ITX case again... I have a 1080TI mini, show me the AMD version? it has never existed! So really its AMD's own fault. People buy what suits them, and so far NVIDIA is the only company that makes cards for EVERYBODY no matter what, you want speed and ITX form factor, no problem... (one example).
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