DXVK 1.0.2 is out with some bug fixes, d9vk seems to be progressing nicely

QuoteIf d9vk eventually got pulled into Steam Play/Proton or merged into DXVK itself, when it's further developed, it could be another big win for Linux gamers getting more performance out of Windows games.

To be clear, the plan is to merge it if it matures enough. Joshua definitely knows his stuff and dedicates a lot of time and effort to this project, and I believe it can happen, but keep in mind that the project isn't backed by anyone and if Josh has to pull out of it for whatever reason, there's going to be no one to maintain it in the long run.


Last edited by YoRHa-2B on 1 April 2019 at 7:46 pm UTC

Path of Exile has started working pretty well lately! (As soon as you've built up a decent shader cache...)

With D9VK, DXVK, and VKD3D, essentially every DirectX 9, 10, 11, and 12 (non Windows Store) game becomes a Vulkan game. It's fun to think about.

I'm curious if D9VK could improve the performance of SWAT 4 with wine in the future :)

Quoting: YoRHa-2BTo be clear, the plan is to merge it if it matures enough. Joshua definitely knows his stuff and dedicates a lot of time and effort to this project, and I believe it can happen, but keep in mind that the project isn't backed by anyone and if Josh has to pull out of it for whatever reason, there's going to be no one to maintain it in the long run.

Hopefully more people will join to help him.

Quoting: YoRHa-2B

QuoteIf d9vk eventually got pulled into Steam Play/Proton or merged into DXVK itself, when it's further developed, it could be another big win for Linux gamers getting more performance out of Windows games.

To be clear, the plan is to merge it if it matures enough. Joshua definitely knows his stuff and dedicates a lot of time and effort to this project, and I believe it can happen, but keep in mind that the project isn't backed by anyone and if Josh has to pull out of it for whatever reason, there's going to be no one to maintain it in the long run.

Great! I did chat with Joshua about it previously and he did mention it was a possible plan for it, good to know you would be open to it :)

Great stuff from you both

I've been following the D9VK development regularly, I don't understand a lot of what's being implemented but I can clearly see a lot of work is going into it every day.

As for DXVK I believe Predication is the next big thing, possibly for v1.1?

I've tested PoE with this release, it's only a virtual-desktop simulation on a 1080p monitor but the result is clear. Nice to know I won't encounter issues should I upgrade. Thanks Philip :D




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QuoteJoshua definitely knows his stuff and dedicates a lot of time and effort to this project, and I believe it can happen, but keep in mind that the project isn't backed by anyone and if Josh has to pull out of it for whatever reason, there's going to be no one to maintain it in the long run.

Do they have a Patreon or something? Is there any way the community could help out other than committing code which a lot of us aren't really qualified to do?

D9VK can benefit CodeWeavers for to improve Crossover... I wonder why they don't hire the guy.

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoD9VK can benefit CodeWeavers for to improve Crossover... I wonder why they don't hire the guy.

It's funny you say that because Joshua (the guy behind D9VK) actually works for CodeWeavers. D9VK is a personal project of his though.


Last edited by Gazoche on 1 April 2019 at 10:47 pm UTC

Quoting: Grabby

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoD9VK can benefit CodeWeavers for to improve Crossover... I wonder why they don't hire the guy.

It's funny you say that because Joshua (the guy behind D9VK) actually works for CodeWeavers. D9VK is a personal project of his though.

I didn't know that... If that is true, I wonder why the project is not officially funded.

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI didn't know that... If that is true, I wonder why the project is not officially funded.

We have at least half a dozen D3D9 implementations right now. How would you decide on which one to support?

• wined3d: mature, runs pretty much everything you throw at it, doesn't perform well but most games are playable


• nine: relatively mature, fast, only works on RadeonSI and Iris at the moment, could be brought to Nvidia via Zink


• dgvoodoo2: closed source, translates d3d7-9 to D3D11, quite slow, d3d9 part still WIP but already works with a fairly decent number of games
  
• DXUP: Abandoned in favour of d9vk, could have been a faster + open alternative to dgvoodoo2


• D9VK: Starts running some games that don't use fixed-function, performs quite well so far, but still has ways to go before it's actually useful


• VK9: Not in a terribly useful state right now, runs some old fixed-function stuff but that's basically it

Compare that to the number of D3D11 implementations that were available ~one year ago when Valve started throwing money my way:

• wined3d: not particularly mature, not particularly fast, a bunch of high-profile games like Witcher 3 did run but were barely playable


• dxvk: sort of ran one game and a bunch of demos, quite fast already, but still had a long way to go before actually being useful

Or D3D12:

• vkd3d: The only implementation that exists, runs WoW and a bunch of demos, still not usable for much else, but we're going to have to rely on it once D3D11 dies

D3D9 really just isn't a big issue by comparison. That's not to say that improvements on that front aren't appreciated, but wined3d is - for the most part - just good eough right now.


Last edited by YoRHa-2B on 1 April 2019 at 11:48 pm UTC

Also to complicate things further codeweavers have their own implementation of Vulkan backend for wine in development. So many projects all trying to do the same thing, its a shame we can't focus our energy on the best solution.

First of all, is an honour..

Quoting: YoRHa-2B

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI didn't know that... If that is true, I wonder why the project is not officially funded.

We have at least half a dozen D3D9 implementations right now. How would you decide on which one to support?

Easy: Choosing the "Aspie" one of all the D3D9 implementations...The more efficient in the practical and potential terms... The one that can give users the more FPS and the more graphic quality (that means no glitches) with the lower cpu usage.

Remember that I am talking about Crossover, not PROTON..
Every year I pay Codeweavers for a Crossover licence. So, if there is something more efficient than the classical (and glitched) WINED3D, I want it ASAP!

I suppose that, by the End Of Life of Windows 7 SP1, D9VK will be enough mature for to be the default D3D9 implementation.

Quoting: YoRHa-2Bwined3d is - for the most part - just good eough right now.

Wined3d is too slow to be called good enough. With the same hardware I can play Dying Light at 60fps with DXVK (thanks a lot!!) but most DX9 games at arround 20fps with wined3d which is too slow for action games. But with nine I get back the 60fps?. If only nine could be in vanilla.


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Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl is the only heavy D3D9 game i play today. (Vanilla Stalker SoC isn't heavy but with mods it is). I hope D9VK will make it perform better one day.
p.s. I'm on Nvidia so no Gallium Nine.


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