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News out of E3 to start the day with, as AMD gave out a lot more details on more exciting hardware coming with the third-generation Ryzen 9 and the Radeon RX 5700.

Let's start with the specifications of their new GPU, the 7nm Radeon RX 5700 which will come in three different models. This is the GPU that will be using their brand new "ground-breaking" RDNA "gaming" architecture and they will be the first to support PCIe 4.0.

  • Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition
    • 40 compute units, 2,560 stream processors, up to 10.14 TFLOPS, 8GB GDDR6, 1,680MHz base clock + 1,830MHz "game clock" and up to 1,980MHz boost. Price around $499.
  • Radeon RX 5700 XT
    • 40 compute units, 2,560 stream processors, up to 9.75 TFLOPS, 8GB GDDR6, 1,605MHz base clock + 1,755MHz "game clock" and up to 1,905MHz boost. Priced around $449.
  • Radeon RX 5700
    • 36 compute units, 2,304 stream processors, up to 7.95 TFLOPS, 8GB GDDR6, 1,465MHz base clock + 1,625MHz "game clock" and up to 1,725MHz boost. Price around $379.

All of which are expected to be available on July 7th.

To go along with that AMD also announced FidelityFX, an open-source developer toolkit that will be up in "the coming weeks" on GPUOpen. AMD say this will make it easier for game developer to make high-quality post-processing effects while balancing performance and looks. This will include "Contrast-Adaptive Sharpening (CAS)" to give detail to low-contrast areas while minimizing artifacts and Unity will be integrating it.

AMD also revealed their latest 3rd generation Ryzen 9 and it sounds like quite the monster with a ridiculous 16 cores:

  • Ryzen 9 3950X
    • 16/32 cores and threads, 105W TDP, 4.7GHz boost and 3.5GHz base. Price around $749 and it's launching in September.

That's in addition to the previously announced Zen 2 Ryzen 3 models that will be launching next month on July 7th.

You can find those details and more here.

Considering the pricing level and the performance they offer there, it's quite likely my next machine will have an AMD CPU. This is the first time I am truly considering doing it since my early days of computing! Probably not the Ryzen 9 3950X though, more likely the reasonably priced Ryzen 9 3900X which is still a beast.

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Arehandoro Jun 11, 2019
Shit, I'm hyped! Those prices and potential performance has definitely left a mark on me. Will see if i nthe UK prices aren't too inflated and maybe I can upgrade the GPU. Although with the amount of crazy games released on 2020, I'm looking at Keanu Reeves and FF7 here, not sure if it's better wait for that and get something better or with a better price down the line.

Happy to see AMD still embracing open-source and that they are doing well, hopefully sales go along too.
crt0mega Jun 11, 2019
Only 105W TDP for their 16C/32T CPU? O_o
Brisse Jun 11, 2019
Quoting: GuestUiiiii, I'm super excited on what their GPUs are capable off if they finaly released and I can study some compute benchmarks.

I don't think it will offer much new in terms of compute performance since they are marketing this solely as "gaming gpu" and they've said that Vega will remain since it's still competitive in compute. If Navi was a compute beast then the marketing pitch wouldn't have been like this.

Quoting: GuestNo one here spooked by the fan on X570 motherboards ? (And their prices)

Apparently the chipsets TDP is quite a bit higher to facilitate all that high speed connectivity with PCIe 4.0. Don't need PCIe 4.0? Then you might be better of with a X470 board which has a lower TDP chipset. Good news is that these new CPU's will work in most older boards but obviously you miss out on PCIe 4.0 and perhaps on RAM-performance as well if you put them in an older board.

Quoting: crt0megaOnly 105W TDP for their 16C/32T CPU? O_o

Yea, but don't expect much more than ~3.5GHz when stressing all cores. TDP is kept in check by lowering frequency obviously. I fully expect this thing to go way beyond 200W when overclocking on all cores. Still, looks like a beastly CPU. Out of my price range though so I'm sticking with my 1700X.
crt0mega Jun 11, 2019
Quoting: BrisseApparently the chipsets TDP is quite a bit higher to facilitate all that high speed connectivity with PCIe 4.0. Don't need PCIe 4.0? Then you might be better of with a X470 board which has a lower TDP chipset. Good news is that these new CPU's will work in most older boards but obviously you miss out on PCIe 4.0 and perhaps on RAM-performance as well if you put them in an older board.
Even my "old" X370 board got an update for Matisse recently :D

Quoting: BrisseYea, but don't expect much more than ~3.5GHz when stressing all cores. TDP is kept in check by lowering frequency obviously. I fully expect this thing to go way beyond 200W when overclocking on all cores. Still, looks like a beastly CPU. Out of my price range though so I'm sticking with my 1700X.
Aye. I have no "pressure" to upgrade, so I'm probably going to look for a higher-base-clock-lower-core-count CPU like the 3800X when the prices are going to drop later this year or 2020. On the other hand, the 3700X doesn't look too bad either.
crt0mega Jun 11, 2019
Quoting: chancho_zombieme also and let's not forget the bugs that 1st gen ryzens had at launch, the gcc bug, the c6 state bug, the IOMMU grouping bug, and gpio bug, some of them it took an year to resolve, so I'll wait no hurry.

Yeah. I certainly remember the gcc bug. AMD replaced my 1800X :-|


Last edited by crt0mega on 11 June 2019 at 11:58 am UTC
minidou Jun 11, 2019
Yep, seems like Navi will be a great generation for AMD. Probably gonna make the switch.

How long does it usually take for the open source driver to handle newly released graphic cards ?
mrdeathjr Jun 11, 2019
Quoting: BrisseI don't think it will offer much new in terms of compute performance since they are marketing this solely as "gaming gpu" and they've said that Vega will remain since it's still competitive in compute.

If Navi was a compute beast then the marketing pitch wouldn't have been like this.

Apparently the chipsets TDP is quite a bit higher to facilitate all that high speed connectivity with PCIe 4.0.

Don't need PCIe 4.0? Then you might be better of with a X470 board which has a lower TDP chipset.

Good news is that these new CPU's will work in most older boards but obviously you miss out on PCIe 4.0 and perhaps on RAM-performance as well if you put them in an older board.


Navi is more GCN+ (rdna seems is only a trademark) and tdp seems higher,
I think real change comes with arcturus in 2020

X570 chipset like a crap (because amd dont use 7nm): big, hotter, active dissipation and pci-e 4.0 dont needed for now meanwhile x470 and older chipset dont have this problems

However wait for ddr5 in 2020 because offer higher frecuencies (ddr5 5000mhz or 5200mhz will be nice) and future ryzen must be benefit of ddr5 frecuencies

^_^
Egonaut Jun 11, 2019
Quoting: chancho_zombieaaand Zen2 got spectre/meltdown hardware mitigations which doesn't turn your cpu into a celeron if you are compiling or doing something else other than gaming.

AMD CPUs don't need meltdown mitigrations and by that won't have any.
x_wing Jun 11, 2019
Quoting: mrdeathjrNavi is more GCN+ (rdna seems is only a trademark) and tdp seems higher,
I think real change comes with arcturus in 2020

And that's a advantage for Linux users as it means that AMDGPU DRM won't require huge changes in order to work with the newer hardware (hopefully).

I'll definitely upgrade to a Ryzen 2 CPU this year (my i5 3470k is getting old...), but I'm not sure if I'll go for a 5700 (maybe a Vega, if their prices are reduced)


Last edited by x_wing on 11 June 2019 at 2:17 pm UTC
mrdeathjr Jun 11, 2019
Quoting: x_wingAnd that's a advantage for Linux users as it means that AMDGPU DRM won't require huge changes in order to work with the newer hardware (hopefully).

I'll definitely upgrade to a Ryzen 2 CPU this year (my i5 3470k is getting old...), but I'm not sure if I'll go for a 5700 (maybe a Vega, if their prices are reduced)

GCN must be die for future (good for compute but dont enough in gaming), Arcturus maybe can give better tdp and another improvements

However yes is a big change and needs time, amd devs must be stay working now for when stay ready in 2020

Respect your i5 3470k, if you wait until now maybe must wait until next year because appears ddr5 (higher frecuencies) and in your case needs change memory

And maybe amd have better chipsets with better fabrication node 7nm ?, aka better temperatures (passive cooling) and tdp

^_^
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