We have both good and bad news to share this morning, as inXile entertainment have given an update on both The Bard's Tale IV: Barrows Deep and The Bard's Tale Trilogy.
In their most recent Kickstarter update, inXile have said that progress on the massive Director’s Cut update for Barrows Deep is going really well. They said Microsoft has been a "truly amazing partner" giving them extra resources allowing them to take their time. As for the release, they're now saying it will be in "late summer" which will include the long-delayed Linux version. Hopefully those who backed it will enjoy it but it must be annoying waiting almost a year since the release for official Linux support.
As for The Bard's Tale Trilogy which was developed separately by Krome Studios, they said this:
We also have some news regarding The Bard’s Tale Trilogy for Mac gamers. Since launch, we’ve seen that Linux users have been able to play the game with minimal fuss, using methods like Steam’s Proton service. On the other hand, Mac users have not been able to play the game, so we are pleased to announce that we have made the additional investment to develop a Mac version. Krome is currently working on some additional updates for The Bard’s Tale Trilogy, and will begin work on the Mac version later this summer. All of you, Windows, Mac, and Linux, will be getting these additional Bard’s Tale Trilogy enhancement updates free of charge.
Clarifying it in the comments of the post, they confirmed "There won't be a native Linux version". It's a shame to see Linux support isn't coming for The Bard's Tale Trilogy but at least it had a "Platinum" rating on ProtonDB.
If you want to follow it along, the Linux build of The Bard's Tale IV: Barrows Deep will be up on Humble Store, GOG and Steam.
Hat tip to Faugn.
Quoting: Alm888Quoting: F.UltraYeah I'm almost 100% sure that the game developers are looking very intensively at how we 1% perform our purchases when determining their future road maps for which technology or platform to use.And Mac's 3% sure make a big difference in their "thought train". :)
Honestly, I think it is more about perception. "MacOS" (or "OSX" or "MacOS X" or whatever) and Macs' in general are well-established products, known since the notorious "Mac vs. PC" ads and often viewed as THE "PC" (misused as the euphemism for Windows) alternative. Mac users often even refuse to call their Macs "PCs". Meanwhile Linux is not perceived as something serious in the personal computer market.
I agree that the macOS hype of course also plays a part of it all, as you write macOS is known even among non computer users while there even exists computer users that have no clue that Linux exists.
However 0.84% vs 3.26% of Steams 90M users results in 756000 vs 2934000 potential customers and close to 3M potential new users is probably above some threshold for publishing houses to plan to put resources into support. Where exactly that threshold is I don't know but so far it seams to be above 0.84% for at least Linux.
So I would still argue that with or without hype we are still a bit too few for game publishers to care.
Quoting: F.UltraHowever 0.84% vs 3.26% of Steams 90M users results in 756000 vs 2934000 potential customers and close to 3M potential new users is probably above some threshold for publishing houses to plan to put resources into support. Where exactly that threshold is I don't know but so far it seams to be above 0.84% for at least Linux.
I always found those percentages to be a bit misleading, primarily because Linux is a much better gaming OS than Mac. It is quite obvious why Mac appears more popular since the OS is sold with the hardware and Linux is not as widely marketed. For every new Linux user, you get 10 more Apples right off the shelf and the % starts going higher right away.
Quoting: F.UltraSo I would still argue that with or without hype we are still a bit too few for game publishers to care.
Chicken and egg situation sort of, the publishers not caring is part of the reason why we're still a bit too few, how are we supposed to do that without them feeding us games? I've seen quite a few people around saying they would try Linux if game x and y ran. The situation has improved over the years, but we need a bigger push to fix those last few issues with Multiplayer anti cheat software.
Quoting: GuestI feel contrary, I like how many options we have now, the broad community support, the option to use Vulkan for hundreds/thousands of games and I like how our infrastructure improved since then!
Yeah, exchanging Linux binaries with Windows binaries and company + community support with community support only sure is a big win...
Quoting: jensIf you want more (bigger) gaming studios and publisher to support Linux, you'll need people that play on Linux. Actually a lot more than now. Really a lot more than the current tiny 1%.
Nobody, nobody at all is going to care for what you're playing on. They care for what you're paying for. If you're playing on Linux and paying for (a) Windows (game), "Windows" is the answer to all their questions.
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Quoting: Guest[...] that's insane. Only shills, M$ fanboys, and greedy sociopaths would advocate for abusing Linux gamers, so I hope that's not being advocated for by raneon.
I distance myself from this.
Quoting: GuestQuoting: GuestI find it quite ironic if people try to tell that Steam Play isn't Linux gaming. If I look at all the interesting technology that improved our Linux infrastructure then I can only disagree. Linux is about free software and this improved a lot with the help of Valve, just look at Mesa, radeonsi, RADV, wine, proton, faudio, DXVK, D9VK, ... I would call this a really vital platform now!
Linux gaming before Steam Play was not a place where all the "native" games have been developed directly for our platform, instead we had lots of wrappers mostly propriety in between. And replacing these wrappers with our own free software is now less Linux gaming then before? I feel contrary, I like how many options we have now, the broad community support, the option to use Vulkan for hundreds/thousands of games and I like how our infrastructure improved since then!
What makes Linux gaming great are things like day-1 support. Windows games aren't supported on Linux, so you can never have that and all the other benefits of normal support. We don't want to become a 2nd class gaming platform that only props up Microsoft Windows gaming. We deserve support just like every other gamer does, and that support only comes when we demand it and will not pay developers who don't give it to us.
Well, please face it, Linux gamers are not even 2nd class citizens, but more like 3rd or 4th citizens considering the user numbers.
Quoting: GuestPlease stop the childish wording/ranting, you only disqualify yourself from this discussion.Quoting: EikeQuoting: GuestI feel contrary, I like how many options we have now, the broad community support, the option to use Vulkan for hundreds/thousands of games and I like how our infrastructure improved since then!
Yeah, exchanging Linux binaries with Windows binaries and company + community support with community support only sure is a big win...
In other words, losing support like a 2nd class gamer, and supporting the Microsoft monopoly. Fully agreed. No Linux gamer in their right mind would ever beg for abuse like that, that's insane. Only shills, M$ fanboys, and greedy sociopaths would advocate for abusing Linux gamers, so I hope that's not being advocated for by raneon.
Quoting: GuestIn order to do that, more Linux gamers need to start demanding it, and the way that happens is when the number of us who demand Linux support goes up.
And where do you want to get more linux gamers from?
Quoting: EikeQuoting: jensIf you want more (bigger) gaming studios and publisher to support Linux, you'll need people that play on Linux. Actually a lot more than now. Really a lot more than the current tiny 1%.
Nobody, nobody at all is going to care for what you're playing on. They care for what you're paying for. If you're playing on Linux and paying for (a) Windows (game), "Windows" is the answer to all their questions.
Well, what I meant to say was: Publishers need to see that people using Linux are paying for their games. If a Windows game sells well on Linux due to usage of Steam Play I would forecast that Linux is taken into consideration with their next game. May be with even better Steam Play compatibility? May be with even support for? Linux Steam Play? May be with even with a native version if Linux user number are still rising in their statistics?
It's a long term thingie..
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