After around 25 months of development, Debian has now released the next stable version Debian 10 "Buster" which will be supported for five years. In this release GNOME now defaults to using Wayland instead of Xorg, the AppArmor kernel security module is enabled by default and it's powered by the Linux 4.19 kernel.
For those who don't like to live on the edge, Debian is a good choice for having a solid computing experience with Linux. Debian 10 comes with these available desktops:
- Cinnamon 3.8
- GNOME 3.30
- KDE Plasma 5.14
- LXDE 0.99.2
- LXQt 0.14
- MATE 1.20
- Xfce 4.12
Like other distributions, you don't need to install Debian right away. It has a "live" image you can stick on a USB, to test it without making any changes on your computer.
For those unaware, Debian is what both Ubuntu (so also Mint, elementary OS, KDE neon and many more) and SteamOS base themselves upon, so the work that goes into Debian affects a great many other distributions.
If you're not upgrading right away, rest assured that Debian 9 "Stretch" is still supported and will continue to be for 12 months with the Debian Security Team, after which it will be handed over to the Debian LTS team.
See their official news post here.
Quoting: EikeI'm not sure if I understand the problem. Is the installer failing due to not supporting the hardware because it's too old? Or does installing work and you would like newer drivers in the running system?no, I think that the kernel doesn't support this new (well..hummm not so but seems anyway) material, according to the returns from some forum replies I had.
If you've got hardware needing non-FLOSS drivers, there's a "non-free" installer for that.
They advised me to try newer kernel and install them by myself, but I failed (well it worked, but many other programs were down after)
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Quoting: Geppeto35no, I think that the kernel doesn't support this new (well..hummm not so but seems anyway) material, according to the returns from some forum replies I had.
They advised me to try newer kernel and install them by myself, but I failed (well it worked, but many other programs were down after)
I'm still unsure. :)
Do you get a running system?
(Then I might be able to help you.)
Quoting: EikeI'm still unsure. :)
Do you get a running system?
(Then I might be able to help you.)
Yes, it worked. I can see and use the desktop. But no lan/internet and ultra low resolution that I can't change. Anyway, ubuntu works on it by day-one, but I would have preferred to use debian 4 ethic and personal convictions ^^
Quoting: Geppeto35Yes, it worked. I can see and use the desktop. But no lan/internet and ultra low resolution that I can't change. Anyway, ubuntu works on it by day-one, but I would have preferred to use debian 4 ethic and personal convictions ^^
It would be hard to fix without network. :)
Did you use a "non-free" installer? It should solve most hardware usage problems.
Quoting: EikeIt would be hard to fix without network. :)I tried some stuffs with usb key. Didn't know that non-free installer exists! :D
Did you use a "non-free" installer? It should solve most hardware usage problems.
Quoting: dvdThe Nvidia driver that is in the non-free repos is two months old.418.74 in stable, and 430.26 in experimental.
I do have unstable in general, with experimental pinned to a low value, default would be 500. Here's part of my /etc/apt/preferences.d/pinning.pref
Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 700
Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 20
Quoting: Geppeto35I tried some stuffs with usb key. Didn't know that non-free installer exists! :D
Debian took quite some effort to remove non-free stuff from their "main" distribution (and AFAIR also from the kernel - didn't find sources?). As they know that many people do need non-free drivers, it's in the "non-free" section. And as some drivers are needed for installation, there are "non-free" install mediums as well.
Quoting: PatolaQuoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: F.UltraAgreed. Although I do have one minor peeve about that Ubuntu (and Mint) installer nonetheless. As a pretty basic user, I still tend to need to muck with the partitioning. Why? Because even the most basic user would be well advised to put their /home on a separate partition from the / with the actual OS. Eventually you're gonna update or reinstall or try a different distro or something, and when you do your life will be so much easier if your actual data you care about is on a separate partition from the one that's gonna get formatted. Sure, you should do a backup anyway, but having those two partitions is basic. But do they have that as an option, or even the default? They do not. If you want that you have to go into the full partitioning thingie and worry about swap and a little boot space and crap like that. Grumble mutter whine bitch.Quoting: dvdQuoting: fagnerlnQuoting: ThormackThe new Steam officially supported distro just launched.
Awesome.
(Just a speculation, for now...)
Nah, I don't think so.
There's a lot things to do after the installation. IMO they will support a more friendly distro, preferably with a corporation behind, like OpenSUSE or Fedora
Maybe they create a new distro for desktop use based on Debian.
I don't see where people get the impression that Ubuntu is more 'user friendly'. Nothing says that better than their python based installer that regularly crashes at the partitioning step with a bunch of exceptions that are surely easier to read for the average user than plain language.
Because the average used does not use whatever advanced setting that you are using that are causing those crashes. They will simply click "next" all the way. And once they have done so they will have a fully working desktop, and if they need further customization or changes then the Internet is full of blogs and nice looking guides for how to do this in Ubuntu.
That is why.
(I swear I have a recollection of Mandriva having that option available in its installer in the old days)
What you cite is not an argument for partitioning, but rather for the use of LVM.
And frankly I don't know why anyone would partition any linux installation today (except for sharing a drive with Microsoft crapware, of course). It seems to me that this should have been abandoned in the nineties, when I fully switched to using LVM on every installation.
AFAIK you setup LVM in the Ubuntu Installer via the partition utility. At least you do in the advanced installer.
Quoting: LinasAnd if you do like to live on the edge, there is Debian Testing, which is a perpetually rolling release.And if you like to be over of the edge, there is always experimental ;)
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