To celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, Steam has a sale on

Quoting: chancho_zombiethe Russians got it all wrong we are not going to conquer the universe sending dogs and space monkeys.:D

Microorganisms, then?
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I'm all for humans getting off this rock, but I would hate to see willful neglect, territoriality, and greed perpetuated in space, beyond what has already occurred thus far (which is a pittance compared to the full potential of human wrong). Heedless pollution (necessitating more initiatives like CleanSpace One),[1] treatment as a playground for the wealthy, inadequate oversight of those who have designs on avariciously cannibalizing resources or expanding property holdings, etc. are not desirable outcomes to me.

I would hate to think that (far beyond my lifetime) there might be a profusion of Starbucks in space.[2]

[1] Even with great care, some pollution will always occur, but pollution can definitely be mitigated beyond what certain vested interests are inclined to do.
[2] Not to be confused with Starbuck; Kara Thrace version is my preference :)


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Worth mentioning Endless Sky and it's twin Naev are both free on Steam these days.

Quoting: x_wingEverspace has 75% of discount but I doubt that any Linux gamer that wants to call himself that way doesn't have it yet :P

Well, if you're still unsure if this game is for you, watch some streams coming up tomorrow evening and on Sunday morning (cest) and put your questions in the chat ;)

Regarding the moon shots, although I was around for earlier launches, the first Apollo launch I can remember would have been Apollo 13. I was sitting on the floor with my family in the living room. I can't remember what exactly I was thinking at the time, but my impression is that I was aware it was something important. I should ask my parents about watching the Apollo missions ...

Regarding the sale, there are some really good deals to be sure, but nothing that's tempting me to spend beyond what I've just spent at the Summer sale. I don't think I'm going to live long enough to play the games I already have.


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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThat's an odd "we", now that I think about it. I'm Canadian, and we never had the capacity, only the Americans did

Hey, don't talk yourselves down, eh?

Quoting: F.UltraSoon SpaceX will build the Falcon Super Heavy which will have capacity to send crews to both the Moon and Mars so there are still interesting times ahead!

Exactly. Although, as I understand it, Musk wants to skip the moon and go straight to Mars (before 2030, which, given the greater challenges involved, isn't that much further off than 1969 was when Kennedy announced his ambition). But I'm pretty certain Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin intends to go there.

(Also, since I'm posting YouTube links, for anyone interested in the AGC, this playlist is essential.)

Quoting: Dunc

Quoting: Purple Library GuyThat's an odd "we", now that I think about it. I'm Canadian, and we never had the capacity, only the Americans did

Hey, don't talk yourselves down, eh?

Thanks for the shoutout! Oh, yeah, the whole Avro Arrow thing. Man I was pissed off with James Diefenbaker when I learned about that. We had the best damn fighter plane in the world, would have spun off to lots of Canadian high tech industry, and he canned it.

Quoting: chancho_zombieBut still that doesn't change my overall negative opinion on the soviets, on latin america they brought us the guerrilla, and funded the Cubans, and the Cuban militias trained local guerrillas like the ones we had here (montoneros), so I have a very negative opinion on the soviets.
(Sorry if I'm being off-topic)

In the same way USA, sponsored military coups. And it is't a binary problem (i.e. Russia vs USA), Africa is a showcase of how first world countries do nasty things just for the "profit"

Every one has a dark side...

Quoting: Dunc

Quoting: Purple Library GuyThat's an odd "we", now that I think about it. I'm Canadian, and we never had the capacity, only the Americans did

Hey, don't talk yourselves down, eh?

Quoting: F.UltraSoon SpaceX will build the Falcon Super Heavy which will have capacity to send crews to both the Moon and Mars so there are still interesting times ahead!

Exactly. Although, as I understand it, Musk wants to skip the moon and go straight to Mars (before 2030, which, given the greater challenges involved, isn't that much further off than 1969 was when Kennedy announced his ambition). But I'm pretty certain Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin intends to go there.

(Also, since I'm posting YouTube links, for anyone interested in the AGC, this playlist is essential.)

Yes Musk personally wants to skip the Moon and head directly to Mars but SpaceX is a commercial space company so while they might be putting their own money into Mars, others are free to rent their rockets for other missions which is how they of course make their money.

That is why they list the BFR (Big Falcon Rocket) as having the following functions:

• Mars colonization
• Earth–lunar transport
• Multiplanetary transport
• Intercontinental transport
• Orbital launcher
• Space tourism

So Dead Space is soon coming :-)

Quoting: chancho_zombieBut still that doesn't change my overall negative opinion on the soviets, on latin america they brought us the guerrilla, and funded the Cubans, and the Cuban militias trained local guerrillas like the ones we had here (montoneros), so I have a very negative opinion on the soviets.
(Sorry if I'm being off-topic)

Don't tell the CIA. I'm pretty sure they don't want the "Reds" to get all the credit for the mess in central/southern America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change#Cold_War_Era
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_violations_by_the_CIA#Assassination_and_targeted_killing

Regarding the importance of exploring the moon, I had the honor to attend this talk, _very_ inspiring:
The Moon: Gateway to the Solar System - ​Richard Campbell


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