What’s the one game keeping you a dual booter? Maybe it’s PUBG, or Rainbow Six: Siege? Maybe it used to be Overwatch? For me, that game was Elite Dangerous, and one year on from Proton’s release, I have a story to tell.
There’s a certain “je ne sais quoi” about Elite Dangerous that I’ve never been able to put my finger on. It’s a game set in a scientifically modelled, full-scale replica of the whole Milky Way galaxy, and as with that setting, the game is truly vast, remarkably cold, and frequently incomprehensible. Yet, when playing Elite, I get the same feeling as when looking up at the stars on a dark and moonless night — my hungry soul is fed. Or it could just be space madness. Regardless, it’s a feeling that I like to dip into every once in a while, immerse myself in, and try not to drown.
Back in February of 2018 I signed up for Distant Worlds 2, an expedition to cross the whole of our galaxy and meet up with thousands of others on the other side, at a star system known colloquially as Beagle Point. The system is named as a memorial to the late dog of the first commander to reach it, but is also a location that holds a special place in many other Elite Dangerous players hearts, partially because it’s very much no mean feat to reach it, but also because in one direction it offers a jaw dropping view of our galaxy, and in the other, the sheer black and empty abyss of what lies beyond. In a game so frequently set to a backdrop similar to a mottled night sky, those views, and the immense pilgrimage taken to get there, act as an unparalleled reminder of the scale of the universe and our place in it. It’s the kind of experience that stands proud as the best of what video-games have to offer. I’d never been out that far before, and it would take months to get there, but I just couldn’t pass up that kind of opportunity.
There was one problem though. Elite Dangerous doesn’t have a Linux version, and still had significant issues with Wine. I’ve never been a “No Tux No Bux” kind of person, so I’d been playing the game on Xbox One first, and then on my Windows install, but this was slowly becoming the last game I needed that partition for. Even as a “dirty dual booter” I cringed at the thought of effectively changing my daily driver for a few months, but the expedition was also setting off in 2019, so I’d have to keep my gaming Windows setup alive and well at the very least for another year and a half. I wasn’t too happy with that prospect, but it was the hand I had chosen to reluctantly deal myself.
In summer, while preparing my ship for the trials ahead, Proton was launched and a ray of hope was lit. By winter, Elite was playable, but with lingering issues, and it still required a custom build with various patches and hacks. In testing, it still crashed or disconnected frequently for me, and had painful performance dips when on planets. It wasn’t enough, and I accepted my fate.
On January 13th we set off. I flew on Windows. The game servers crashed from the sheer thousands of spaceships all hyperspace jumping synchronously into the black. At least those crashed servers were probably on Linux.
I arrived at Beagle Point late after almost 5 months out there, on the 8th of May, and it was everything I’d hoped — a humbling journey and a pensive rest at the edge of our galaxy. I met with some folks on the surface of a world as far from home as we could imagine, and recounted tales of near deaths, earth-like worlds and black hole sunsets. Meanwhile, on the way, something amazing happened. Those custom patches had made their way into mainline Proton, DXVK had improved, and suddenly, with one small tweak (installing dotnet40, needed for the launcher), I could fly my ship on Linux.
Not only that, but the issues I’d always had with the drivers for my HOTAS, a Saitek x52 Pro, were all gone, including installers that aren’t even fully compatible with Windows 10, default clutch modes that just don’t go away, and weird bugs picking up some buttons as a 2nd mouse. On Linux, a perfectly usable driver for the joystick and throttle is right there in the kernel! The game fully picked up my Ultra-Wide monitor, when on Windows the OS would fight and move my other windows around failing to compensate. “ED Market Connector”, an external app I use for journey tracking, trade data sharing, and more, has a fully working Linux version. Lastly, and this blows my mind, it all works in VR — Sheer magic.
I made my way back to Sol on Linux, faster this time, enjoying every minute of an experience I’d wanted for years. I docked my limping but mostly intact Beluga cruise liner at a starport in the tiny human occupied bubble of space two months later on the 29th of July. I felt like I’d achieved something, and most importantly I’d been able to finally do it on home turf. I set off on Windows, but I came back changed, and these days, my Windows install is kept around almost entirely for work.
I wouldn’t claim that it’s a game for everyone, but there are a huge number of us who enjoy it’s take on the space genre. The fantastic blend of difficulty, control, subtlety, agency, scale, individuality and community all make Elite Dangerous a powerful experience. Those factors all make Linux great too, it’s impossible not to see the clear parallels. They’re both difficult at first, but a joy once you get going, full of wonderful nerds with their own stories and reasons to be, sharing their customisations, doing the hard stuff for its own sake, and creating something much greater than the sum of its parts. A year after Proton released, it’s a match made in the stars.
If you do see me out there in the black, don’t be afraid to say hi and share your stories too. Maybe we can start a squadron of penguin commanders.
You can pick up Elite Dangerous on Steam.
I think I might give it a go this weekend. It looks fun!
Quoting: joaojottaDID NOT make the game playable on my machine. Didn't evenget to the launch screen. None of the tricks worked. Maybe I'm missing something...
Anyway: if we ever cross our paths in space, I'm Cmdr Calenulma.
https://github.com/redmcg/wine/wiki has an explanation that has worked for me.
Huh, I think they changed the instructions on there, but now it seems easier. https://www.protondb.com/app/359320 has various suggestions too.
Fly high commanders. o7
For some reason, it doesn't seem to notice my old Logitech Joystick (3d Extreme). lsusb correctly ID's it, but the game doesn't. Running Steam in Big Picture Mode, makes steam think its a controller, not a stick, lol.
I'll give it one more shot and then I'll try tomorrow. Too bad I have mandatory OT this weekend (wooo)
Quoting: denyasisYepper - I just got it to work. I think my issue was I had forgotten to set the PATH while installing dotnet40. I didn't try 472 or dxvk, but it works (and after 2 hours messing with it, I'm not inclined to break it just yet).
For some reason, it doesn't seem to notice my old Logitech Joystick (3d Extreme). lsusb correctly ID's it, but the game doesn't. Running Steam in Big Picture Mode, makes steam think its a controller, not a stick, lol.
I'll give it one more shot and then I'll try tomorrow. Too bad I have mandatory OT this weekend (wooo)
Needs moar buttons!! If you can afford it, go for the Logitech (or Saitek, but avoid Mad Catz brand) x52 (or thr Pro version). It is the model for the controller in game. The thrust portion for some reason looks like the Thrustmaster, but the flight stick is almost exactly like the x52. Plus Linux has tools for it if you feel like messing with the MFD. But it otherwise works out of the box.
Quoting: slaapliedjeNeeds moar buttons!! If you can afford it, go for the Logitech (or Saitek, but avoid Mad Catz brand) x52 (or thr Pro version). It is the model for the controller in game. The thrust portion for some reason looks like the Thrustmaster, but the flight stick is almost exactly like the x52. Plus Linux has tools for it if you feel like messing with the MFD. But it otherwise works out of the box.
https://github.com/nirenjan/x52pro-linux for the x52 Pro MFD user space driver!
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Now that I have the basics down, I'll try installing a non steam version. My working theory is that it is a steam issue. The stick "functions", but acts like a generic controller. Moving the stick emulates the arrows keys, the trigger is enter and it doesn't show up in the games option menu. I think steam is simply making it to emulate a keyboard.
As a bonus, my extra shift cut from 19hrs, to 15hrs, so I might have some free time this weekend after all! Woo!
Quoting: denyasisFor some reason, it doesn't seem to notice my old Logitech Joystick (3d Extreme).
I know of people having success using the instructions here:
https://github.com/redmcg/wine/wiki/Peripherals#logitech-extreme-3d-pro
Quoting: Marc Di LuzioIt's also already packaged in Debian.Quoting: slaapliedjeNeeds moar buttons!! If you can afford it, go for the Logitech (or Saitek, but avoid Mad Catz brand) x52 (or thr Pro version). It is the model for the controller in game. The thrust portion for some reason looks like the Thrustmaster, but the flight stick is almost exactly like the x52. Plus Linux has tools for it if you feel like messing with the MFD. But it otherwise works out of the box.
https://github.com/nirenjan/x52pro-linux for the x52 Pro MFD user space driver!
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libx52pro-dev/stable,unstable 0.1.1-2.3+b1 amd64
MFD and LED library for Saitek X52pro joysticks - dev files
libx52pro0/stable,unstable 0.1.1-2.3+b1 amd64
MFD and LED library for Saitek x52pro joysticks
Quoting: redmcgQuoting: denyasisFor some reason, it doesn't seem to notice my old Logitech Joystick (3d Extreme).
I know of people having success using the instructions here:
https://github.com/redmcg/wine/wiki/Peripherals#logitech-extreme-3d-pro
Thanks. I literally have your wiki pulled up while building a prefix for the non-steam version, when I checked this (launcher is downloading the game for the next 3 hours). Excellent resource, btw. Thanks for putting that together.
Once I get it downloaded and tested (prolly tomorrow), I'll try the SDL trick. If it's SDL and not steam, I'd wager it would work for both versions. I'll let you all know what I find out.
I"m interested to play the game. I think Oolite or X2 was the last Elite style game I played!
EDIT:
Looks like the SDL bit worked to get the joystick working!! Woot!
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