Someone check the weather in hell, as NVIDIA seem to be opening themselves up a bit more with the release of some additional GPU documentation.
Phoronix writes that NVIDIA notified them about the documentation now being available on GitHub along with it under an MIT license, which should hopefully help the Nouveau open source Linux driver. It was previously available here on their own website, although they stopped updating that in May. So not only is this more up to date with new and updated files, it's also far easier to look through.
The documentation covers all sorts of things like the BIOS, their custom "Falcon" architecture for security, memory tweaking and so on. This isn't just desktop GPU docs either, having a look over it myself there's information for notebook products as well.
According to what NVIDIA said, it's a work in progress and not everything is up yet. This has apparently been a "multi-year undertaking", which isn't really surprising given how it would all have to be run through different people to sign off on it. The legal spaghetti surrounding things like this is probably quite messy.
Pretty big surprise, nice to see NVIDIA make some more open steps. It's still nothing compared to the levels of AMD and Intel, since they have proper open source drivers but it's a good step in a nice direction for sure. You can find it all here on GitHub.
Hey NVIDIA, if you're reading—get in touch!
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Actually, Nvidia's Vulkan implementation is not faster. If anything, AMD one actually is (considering ACO and amdvlk).
OpenGL cheating on the other hand can not be considered a "faster driver", it's not even a fair comparison. You need to compare compliant drivers for that.
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OpenGL cheating on the other hand can not be considered a "faster driver", it's not even a fair comparison. You need to compare compliant drivers for that.
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Quoting: HoriI only use Nvidia because they have more powerful cards. If AMD manages to get ahead, I'll switch.
I've been using Intel for CPUs for the same reason forever, but if AMD keeps up the way they did for the past few years, my next rig will be sporting an AMD processor.
Intel kinda sh*t themselves with all the vulnerabilities in their CPUs and the fixes that decrease the performance. Aaaand now AMD offers better performance even from the get-go anyway (plus you're not likely to suffer decreases along the way)
But I'm kinda worried about AMD in the GPU space, since they don't have anything RTX related right now. And Nvidia will likely release the second RTX generation soon enough.
If not for the greed with the pricing of the 20xx series, Nvidia would have been an ok company in my book. 10xx series was AMAZING with great price and even greater performance. But upgrading to 20xx didn't feel like it was worth it. In any case, I'm looking forward to the next generation. I hope they're gonna be more honest with the price but even then an upgrade would be worth it. Even the Super (sub-)series would be worth it in my book, if not for the fact that it's gonna be obsolete pretty soon (next year I think /& hope)
TL;DR I'm not loyal to any company, I'm just gonna get the one that offers the best gaming performance
Exactly, I don’t give a rats ass weather its nvidia or amd. It’s whoever makes the most powerful card and right now it’s nvidia. I could care less about the politics of weather something is open source or not. Its funny how all you AMD users get bent out of shape about hardware or software you dont even use.
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Quoting: goldenkExactly, I don’t give a rats ass weather its nvidia or amd. It’s whoever makes the most powerful card and right now it’s nvidia. I could care less about the politics of weather something is open source or not. Its funny how all you AMD users get bent out of shape about hardware or software you dont even use.
Not surprising coming from those who are used to Windows approach to things. Nvidia is using the same. But Linux approach is different. You might not care less, but you should at least figure out what the Linux approach is.
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Good article which brings this topic of people who started using Linux, without understanding the value of FOSS:
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-linux-journals-resurrection-taught-me-about-foss-community
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-linux-journals-resurrection-taught-me-about-foss-community
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Quoting: ShmerlGood article which brings this topic of people who started using Linux, without understanding the value of FOSS:
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-linux-journals-resurrection-taught-me-about-foss-community
Make sure you read it while it's there. The Linux Journal just announced it has closed its doors, but will try to keep the website online for a few weeks to give others a chance to archive it.
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Quoting: lectrodeMake sure you read it while it's there. The Linux Journal just announced it has closed its doors, but will try to keep the website online for a few weeks to give others a chance to archive it.
Requested Wayback machine to save it: https://web.archive.org/web/20190808184952/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-linux-journals-resurrection-taught-me-about-foss-community
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Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: goldenkExactly, I don’t give a rats ass weather its nvidia or amd. It’s whoever makes the most powerful card and right now it’s nvidia. I could care less about the politics of weather something is open source or not. Its funny how all you AMD users get bent out of shape about hardware or software you dont even use.
Not surprising coming from those who are used to Windows approach to things. Nvidia is using the same. But Linux approach is different. You might not care less, but you should at least figure out what the Linux approach is.
I disagree with what you say but with as many likes that you receive on your comments, most here think like you so I’ll just go on my way. I don’t believe anyone should be expected to know anything before trying or using linux. Just people using linux is good enough in my eyes no matter the hardware, obviously I’m on the wrong page.
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Quoting: goldenkI disagree with what you say but with as many likes that you receive on your comments, most here think like you so I’ll just go on my way. I don’t believe anyone should be expected to know anything before trying or using linux. Just people using linux is good enough in my eyes no matter the hardware, obviously I’m on the wrong page.
You don't need to know it, to try it out, but you can learn it, to understand if you already want to stick around. Trying to fit Windows approach into Linux ecosystem is not productive. Bad actors like Nvidia aren't helping with this, since people assume that's normal.
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I really don't get why there is so much profound hate against NVidia and the need to express that to users that are happy with their Nvidia cards and how you would use them on Linux..
@shmerl, you are an AMD owner, why not just be happy with you very valid choice and play a good game? Why the need to dominate this topic here and invest that much energy into missionary work?
To quote the mentioned article above from The Linux Journal:
(and may be I should add that I run first Linux installation around 1999 with KDE 1.0 beta 3)
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@shmerl, you are an AMD owner, why not just be happy with you very valid choice and play a good game? Why the need to dominate this topic here and invest that much energy into missionary work?
To quote the mentioned article above from The Linux Journal:
QuoteIt's important to stress that all of these people are contributors to and members of the FOSS community! It's a mistake to exclude members of the community for not behaving like the original core or not devoting their whole lives to FOSS.
(and may be I should add that I run first Linux installation around 1999 with KDE 1.0 beta 3)
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Quoting: jensI really don't get why there is so much profound hate against NVidia and the need to express that to users that are happy with their Nvidia cards and how you would use them on Linux..
@shmerl, you are an AMD owner, why not just be happy with you very valid choice and play a good game? Why the need to dominate this topic here
It's not about users being happy with their cards (nothing wrong with that). It's about users coming from Windows approach backround and not understanding Linux one, trying to justify what Nvidia does wrong (because they are used to such approach and don't know what's wrong with it). That's not something we should silently accept.
That quote from Linux journal says we shouldn't exclude users, and we indeed shouldn't. It doesn't mean we need to agree with wrong claims. We can explain how they are wrong, in a normal fashion. In fact, if you won't put any effort in explaining it, these people won't even know that anything is off with such approach (that Nvidia uses). And that very article points out, that it's not a good thing.
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