After a successful Kickstarter that planned Linux support and now being released on Steam, the developer of Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE has issued a post about platforms no longer happening.
I spoke to the developer personally after a comment was posted on their Kickstarter a few days ago, noting that they were unsure if the Linux and Mac versions were going to happen. Since this was buried in a comment on a Kickstarter post, I wanted to find out what was going on. The developer explained the situation, so I advised them to be open and honest and make a proper announcement on it.
Now they have done so, in a larger post on Kickstarter and it's not a great situation. It's a case of a small two-person team biting off much more than they can chew. It goes over a bunch of issues they faced, along with funds getting low and a publisher leaving them "due to the delays", along with "personal and health issues" and so on. One of the developers is going to be moving onto other things too, so there will only be one person left to deal with everything.
The good news, is that they said refunds will be offered "as we get any revenue from the releases". So if you did back it on the Kickstarter back in 2015 it might be time to seek that refund.
Always a shame when things like this happen. Game development is a long and expensive thing to do, without seriously good planning so many things can easily go wrong.
It has been added to our dedicated Crowdfunding Page.
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Kimyrielle Aug 26, 2019
Quoting: BeamboomUnfortunately it's guys like this who pretty much destroy the entire crowdfunding model. I haven't funded a project in who knows how long now. And it's not because there hasn't been any who looked good on paper.
Same. Well, technically -this- particular story wouldn't deter me all by itself. It looked like a perfect storm of bad things coming together to create this failure. It doesn't look malicious to me at all. These guys were apparently NOT like some devs on Kickstarter who promise supporting every single platform in the world to draw in more crowdfunding money, just to literally write some variant of "Nah, we don't care about you and never did, because you're not Windows" after taking their cash. It's THESE people that made me stop funding games.
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Quoting: CyrilI particularly hate the issue about the publisher, like "faster = better"... this has to stop (but yeah it's capitalism isn't it?).Why?
When I give someone money, agreeing to certain conditions, and then it becomes obvious that those conditions will not be met - and it seems increasingly unlikely that further investments would see any return... Well, then I just withdraw and cut my losses.
That's just common sense, which really could be a bit more common amongst some game developers.
Would you let yourself be screwed over?
This has nothing to do with demanding too much or "faster = better".
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Quoting: TheSHEEEPWhy?
When I give someone money, agreeing to certain conditions, and then it becomes obvious that those conditions will not be met - and it seems increasingly unlikely that further investments would see any return... Well, then I just withdraw and cut my losses.
That's justcommon sensecapitalism, which really could be a bit more common amongst some game developers.
Would you let yourself be screwed over?
This has nothing to do with demanding too much or "faster = better".
Fixed. We can't really argue about that since we only (?) know this model in game industry and we don't know about what their agreement exactly was.
I just hate that model/system, so asking me this question is a nonsense.
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Quoting: KimyrielleIt doesn't look malicious to me at all.
For me it doesn't really matter much as long as the result is the same. One might even argue it's worse when even projects with all good intentions fails.
Furthermore I'm not so sure if all of those other projects really are that malicious either - or just simply inexpereinced devs who are eager to take on the world, until the reality slaps them in the face with a big fat trout.
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Quoting: CyrilDo you have any reason for your attitude or is this just the usual "capitalism bad!" rhetoric with no logic behind it whatsoever?Quoting: TheSHEEEPWhy?
When I give someone money, agreeing to certain conditions, and then it becomes obvious that those conditions will not be met - and it seems increasingly unlikely that further investments would see any return... Well, then I just withdraw and cut my losses.
That's justcommon sensecapitalism, which really could be a bit more common amongst some game developers.
Would you let yourself be screwed over?
This has nothing to do with demanding too much or "faster = better".
Fixed. We can't really argue about that since we only (?) know this model in game industry and we don't know about what their agreement exactly was.
I just hate that model/system, so asking me this question is a nonsense.
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Quoting: TheSHEEEPDo you have any reason for your attitude or is this just the usual "capitalism bad!" rhetoric with no logic behind it whatsoever?It would hardly be logical of him to waste his time replying to someone so explicitly dismissive of his views.
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Quoting: tuubiOhhh, I touched a sore spot there, it seems.Quoting: TheSHEEEPDo you have any reason for your attitude or is this just the usual "capitalism bad!" rhetoric with no logic behind it whatsoever?It would hardly be logical of him to waste his time replying to someone so explicitly dismissive of his views.
I am explicitly dismissive of attitudes without reason behind them, for sure.
And I asked if that was the case for him or if he maybe wanted to add some argument to his statement. Because "I just hate X" isn't much to go on, really. We aren't talking about someone not liking broccoli here.
It's called a discussion, in which further explanations are sometimes required and requested.
Are you new to this?
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Quoting: TheSHEEEPYou're just itching for a fight, aren't you? :DQuoting: tuubiOhhh, I touched a sore spot there, it seems.Quoting: TheSHEEEPDo you have any reason for your attitude or is this just the usual "capitalism bad!" rhetoric with no logic behind it whatsoever?It would hardly be logical of him to waste his time replying to someone so explicitly dismissive of his views.
I am explicitly dismissive of attitudes without reason behind them, for sure.
And I asked if that was the case for him or if he maybe wanted to add some argument to his statement. Because "I just hate X" isn't much to go on, really. We aren't talking about someone not liking broccoli here.
It's called a discussion, in which further explanations are sometimes required and requested.
Are you new to this?
Just a tip: "Are you as stupid as everyone else who thinks that way?" isn't the invitation to civil discourse you think it is.
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Quoting: tuubiJust a tip: "Are you as stupid as everyone else who thinks that way?" isn't the invitation to civil discourse you think it is.Not what I said. But very interesting how you interpreted it.
And as I stated elsewhere, I really don't care about replies to me being "civil", I care more about having an honest discussion.
Nobody has to be extra nice and friendly towards me, I really don't give a damn about that. It's substance over form for me.
Quoting: tuubiYou're just itching for a fight, aren't you? :DWe live in interesting times, when asking someone to provide further reasoning for an "I just hate X" statement is considered asking for a fight.
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Quoting: TheSHEEEPDo you have any reason for your attitude or is this just the usual "capitalism bad!" rhetoric with no logic behind it whatsoever?
Same question for you, with your attitude, so do you think capitalism is good?
I'm not really inclined to debate about this subject on this topic, maybe It's my fault, but I think that's off topic here.
But with your first description, you called it "common sense" and I really disagree with this, for me it's just a reaction of a system established, here the capitalism.
At this point it seems a debate would be difficult.
Capitalism is not a common sense, nor a logical system as it creates nothing good IMO.
But it's easy to be misinterpreted on Internet. If people can't think outside a system, it's complicated. And I don't saying that you're this kind, I just don't know but at least I think you like to debate on any subject.
It's indeed interesting, but It would take forever.
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