The open source Nintendo Switch Emulator 'yuzu' now has a Vulkan renderer

The blog post is quite interesting. They're basically saying that Vulkan is for AMD support because AMD OpenGL drivers are terrible. For NVIDIA OpenGL is the way to go because it matches better with how it is used by games.


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I'm a bit on the fence about this one, strangely enough I have no issues with emulation, or with paid games.. and yet it seems so odd to have to pay for what is effectively.. pure piracy in 99% of the usecases if not more.

Quoting: cere4lI'm a bit on the fence about this one, strangely enough I have no issues with emulation, or with paid games.. and yet it seems so odd to have to pay for what is effectively.. pure piracy in 99% of the usecases if not more.

I get what you're saying, but the whole paying for Early Access to new features is really just a way of supporting the developers of the emulator a little more. It's tough work for sure and all the code ends up open source anyway.

I wouldn't conflate emulation with piracy like that though. There's tons of legitimate use cases of emulation.

I like their approach to fetch the needed keys and files from your own handheld. Cannot confirm how involved the process is actually. That is the way to go for these newer, more complex systems if you don't want to be sued. Especially regarding the cartridge dumping for getting games to play.

But the Quickstart guide video has to be a joke, right? Yeah, sure, show how to visit a web page, download and run an application on Windows without ever touching the really pressing issues of the information extraction process itself that is describe further down the written guide. And people speak of hitting a steep learning curve with vim...

Quoting: EhvisThe blog post is quite interesting. They're basically saying that Vulkan is for AMD support because AMD OpenGL drivers are terrible. For NVIDIA OpenGL is the way to go because it matches better with how it is used by games.

It's also fun to see that one of the workaround for AMD users was to use Linux instead of Windows

Thanks for posting it Liam

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Quoting: cere4lI'm a bit on the fence about this one, strangely enough I have no issues with emulation, or with paid games.. and yet it seems so odd to have to pay for what is effectively.. pure piracy in 99% of the usecases if not more.

I get what you're saying, but the whole paying for Early Access to new features is really just a way of supporting the developers of the emulator a little more. It's tough work for sure and all the code ends up open source anyway.

I wouldn't conflate emulation with piracy like that though. There's tons of legitimate use cases of emulation.

Development for games being a huge one. Shout out to the Stella developers, who I know visit this site. I am sure many Atari 2600 homebrews exist because of that emulator.

Quoting: cere4lI'm a bit on the fence about this one, strangely enough I have no issues with emulation, or with paid games.. and yet it seems so odd to have to pay for what is effectively.. pure piracy in 99% of the usecases if not more.

Hundreds of years from now, it will be thanks to "pirates" that people will be able to play the games we have enjoyed in our lifetimes. NOT the large corporations who cannot even be trusted as custodians of their own source code. "Piracy" isn't even a necessary evil, it is an absolute good for humanity in the long run because of the oppressive copyright scheme we had foisted on us.


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Quoting: cere4lI'm a bit on the fence about this one, strangely enough I have no issues with emulation, or with paid games.. and yet it seems so odd to have to pay for what is effectively.. pure piracy in 99% of the usecases if not more.

Hundreds of years from now, it will be thanks to "pirates" that people will be able to play the games we have enjoyed in our lifetimes. NOT the large corporations who cannot even be trusted as custodians of their own source code. "Piracy" isn't even a necessary evil, it is an absolute good for humanity in the long run because of the oppressive copyright scheme we had foisted on us.

Hundreds of years from now, maybe half a dozen historians will be interested in playing the games we have enjoyed in our lifetimes. And that's assuming civilization survives the next 40 years. Mind you, I think scholarship is important, I'm just saying--in terms of ordinary people, in hundreds of years they'll want to play their games, with maybe a little vogue for playing those retro games from only (hundreds - 20) of years in the future.
(Well, maybe the Koreans will still be playing Starcraft, kind of the way we still play chess. In competitive matches they will ceremoniously have a drink of tea before the match, except for reasons nobody remembers they will have to chant "Do the Dew!" after the first sip)


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Quoting: Desum

Quoting: cere4lI'm a bit on the fence about this one, strangely enough I have no issues with emulation, or with paid games.. and yet it seems so odd to have to pay for what is effectively.. pure piracy in 99% of the usecases if not more.

Hundreds of years from now, it will be thanks to "pirates" that people will be able to play the games we have enjoyed in our lifetimes. NOT the large corporations who cannot even be trusted as custodians of their own source code. "Piracy" isn't even a necessary evil, it is an absolute good for humanity in the long run because of the oppressive copyright scheme we had foisted on us.

Hundreds of years from now, maybe half a dozen historians will be interested in playing the games we have enjoyed in our lifetimes. And that's assuming civilization survives the next 40 years. Mind you, I think scholarship is important, I'm just saying--in terms of ordinary people, in hundreds of years they'll want to play their games, with maybe a little vogue for playing those retro games from only (hundreds - 20) of years in the future.
(Well, maybe the Koreans will still be playing Starcraft, kind of the way we still play chess. In competitive matches they will ceremoniously have a drink of tea before the match, except for reasons nobody remembers they will have to chant "Do the Dew!" after the first sip)

Yes, like those half dozen scholars interested in stories like Beowulf other ancient works. Or the pittance of people who care about more "recent" public domain works like Alice in Wonderland, A Princess of Mars or The Night Land. Never mind all the diverse pieces of music and art that are used and remixed to this day.

Perhaps YOU don't care about playing games from before your time (or preserving cultural artifacts in general), but more people than you seem to think do. And emulators and "piracy" are how that's going to happen with video games by and large. Most games will NEVER get source code either released or rewritten. Hell, in the case of SEGA, nearly their entire Saturn catalog's source code is gone.

I'm not in favor of abolishing copyright either, but what we have now is far past excessive and is going to cause a lot of works, not just games, to be lost.


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