A heads up: there's been reports of people being banned by EA and having EA claim their ban will stay, for playing Battlefield V with Wine + DXVK.
The post on the Lutris forum, has multiple people claiming the same thing. This wouldn't be the first time playing an online game with some form of Wine got people banned, as the same happened with Activision Blizzard and the game Overwatch although the majority of those bans were overturned. In this case, things might not go so well with EA already telling users they will not "remove this sanction from your account"—ouch.
Just another reason why I continue to fight for supported Linux releases. Support developers with your money that support the platform. Playing with Wine (and so Steam Play Proton too), is almost always not supported by the original developer and so they have no reason to actually do anything when problems like this arise. As much as it's a terrible situation, it's best to not play multiplayer titles (EA especially it seems) with Wine based solutions if they have anti-cheat systems in place.
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Being banned by EA is like being banned by the devil from giving him your soul...
People should be thankful.
Last edited by TheSHEEEP on 3 Jan 2020 at 12:33 pm UTC
People should be thankful.
Last edited by TheSHEEEP on 3 Jan 2020 at 12:33 pm UTC
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Staying away from EA is a good idea in general I suppose. Their business practices, how they treat customers and developers - EA is a role model of free market economy gone wrong.
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Playing on linux is cheating, we don't have the slow downs, hangs, random crashes, and auto reboots for the updates that the windows gamers has.
I don't like the current way that made multiplayer games, but its a shame that they are not able to detect properly if someone is cheating or not.
The next step is forcing to have x.y.z version installed with y.z hardware to be able to play. They should put a warning before buying a game like this.
I don't like the current way that made multiplayer games, but its a shame that they are not able to detect properly if someone is cheating or not.
The next step is forcing to have x.y.z version installed with y.z hardware to be able to play. They should put a warning before buying a game like this.
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I'll be honest: I can understand where they are coming from. When your focus is to fight cheating to an as great extent as possible this is a rather small sacrifice, relatively speaking.
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Well, it is EA after all. Unless some major changes come about, I'll never purchase any games from them. Speak with your wallet folks. Here's a interesting link from Consumerist magazine.
https://consumerist.com/2012/04/congratulations-ea-you-are-the-worst-company-in-america-for-2012.html
They won again in 2013 btw. ;)
https://consumerist.com/2012/04/congratulations-ea-you-are-the-worst-company-in-america-for-2012.html
They won again in 2013 btw. ;)
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If the afected player is from EU you can follow this video to force EA to provide the cheat logs and as a last ressort to delete all user data (right to be forgotten) wich includes the ban . Failiure to comply with EU law implies criminal procedures and a 20 million fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bY_pPslgPE
Guess i Will add One more brand to my hate list.
Guess i Will add One more brand to my hate list.
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I have said numerous times that anti-cheating will become the number one problem when it come to linux gaming due to the open-source nature of Linux and its ecosystem.
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probably xdotool or autokey or whatever is being used by those persons. I hear lots of people still play just fine with no bans. So i wouldn't jump into conclusions yet.
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we don't have the slow downs, hangs, random crashes.Yep. No games , no problems.
auto reboots for the updates that the windows gamers has.Windows does not have such problems. The problem is on the chair in front of the monitor.
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It is no wonder to me.
Using a Anti Cheat solution via a translationlayer, which can not be controlled by this Anti Cheat solution must lead to a ban.
That is the way this kind of software works.
One should never play Multiplayer games via Proton/Wine/DXVK, when it is not officially supported.
I use and like Proton - but only for singleplayer games.
Using a Anti Cheat solution via a translationlayer, which can not be controlled by this Anti Cheat solution must lead to a ban.
That is the way this kind of software works.
One should never play Multiplayer games via Proton/Wine/DXVK, when it is not officially supported.
I use and like Proton - but only for singleplayer games.
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Using a Anti Cheat solution via a translationlayer, which can not be controlled by this Anti Cheat solution must lead to a ban.Actually, it's a lot deeper than that. The Anti-Cheat-Jerks try to effect control of a system they don't own. Which can only fail. And this applies to Windows too.
If they would write games with the assumption that they can't control the device, most cheats wouldn't even work. But hey, performance is more important than to inhibit cheating, and so they resort to crappy attempts at control.
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And here I almost bought Battlefield V last year since I saw several videos of Linux gamers playing it and I used to love the Battlefield games. But I couldn't get myself to buy a Windows game. I'm glad (sadly) that I held off. (I do play Overwatch because it came in a bundle.) Actually, I can't think of the last time I bought an EA game. Anthem and Andromeda were the last ones I was interested in and they were both flops, so I didn't buy them either.
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heidi.wenger 3 Jan 2020
EA should be ashamed of themselves. Do they have shame of any kind on anything they do? Apparently not it seems. Just a cold machine heart.
They will never be remembered the same warm way, say, Sierra and Lucasarts now are. Imagine the world without Linux for starters
They will never be remembered the same warm way, say, Sierra and Lucasarts now are. Imagine the world without Linux for starters
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Nothing new here, Bungie banning linux gamers from Destiny 2 too. Because of reasons...
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Being banned by EA is like being banned by the devil from giving him your soul...
People should be thankful.
Reminds me of the worst German tabloid, "BILD". When I stumble upon a page there, it says you cannot read the page with an add blocker, and I always think, phew, that was close...!
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There are no forced updates on Windows...?
auto reboots for the updates that the windows gamers has.Windows does not have such problems. The problem is on the chair in front of the monitor.
There are no forced updates on Windows...?
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Being banned by EA is like being banned by the devil from giving him your soul...
People should be thankful.
Reminds me of the worst German tabloid, "BILD". When I stumble upon a page there, it says you cannot read the page with an add blocker, and I always think, phew, that was close...!
Thanks a lot , that made my evening :D:D
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