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PayPalA heads up: there's been reports of people being banned by EA and having EA claim their ban will stay, for playing Battlefield V with Wine + DXVK.
The post on the Lutris forum, has multiple people claiming the same thing. This wouldn't be the first time playing an online game with some form of Wine got people banned, as the same happened with Activision Blizzard and the game Overwatch although the majority of those bans were overturned. In this case, things might not go so well with EA already telling users they will not "remove this sanction from your account"—ouch.
Just another reason why I continue to fight for supported Linux releases. Support developers with your money that support the platform. Playing with Wine (and so Steam Play Proton too), is almost always not supported by the original developer and so they have no reason to actually do anything when problems like this arise. As much as it's a terrible situation, it's best to not play multiplayer titles (EA especially it seems) with Wine based solutions if they have anti-cheat systems in place.
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TheLinuxPleb 3 Jan 2020
we don't have the slow downs, hangs, random crashes.Yep. No games , no problems.
auto reboots for the updates that the windows gamers has.Windows does not have such problems. The problem is on the chair in front of the monitor.
Not sure if anything has changed, but the last time i used it about two years ago it kicked me out while playing multiplayer games when there was an update. Also you could turn settings that makes stuff better, but then there is an update that makes you turn on settings and your old settings have been changed to different ones. That was two years ago. One of the things that really made me get out from it, because the constant hassle of having to set things up for your liking and never really getting anywhere. Not to mention how much ads there were. For a product that i payed money (meaning that i bought 8.1 for 10) it was unacceptable. Truly a garbage product. Maybe some have had better luck with Windows, but that was my experience of it.
Now even if things would have changed i would never go back, because they have done it once and im sure they will do stuff like that again or maybe even something worse.
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BrazilianGamer 3 Jan 2020
It's just EA being the same POS it's always been
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Nothing new here, Bungie banning linux gamers from Destiny 2 too. Because of reasons...Wrong. Destiny 2 was banning Linux gamers using a literal hack to work around anti-cheat, anyone banned using it dug their own grave.
Oh, so it is safe to play? I refrained from it because of that. I think we really need a wiki page with sources on topics like these...
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No, you still cannot play as it won't work.Nothing new here, Bungie banning linux gamers from Destiny 2 too. Because of reasons...Wrong. Destiny 2 was banning Linux gamers using a literal hack to work around anti-cheat, anyone banned using it dug their own grave.
Oh, so it is safe to play? I refrained from it because of that. I think we really need a wiki page with sources on topics like these...
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The next step is forcing to have x.y.z version installed with y.z hardware to be able to play. They should put a warning before buying a game like this.
EA should just stick to consoles. They've never appeared to accept the multitude of setups on the PC platform anyway.
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Sir_Diealot 4 Jan 2020
Don't you worry, once you play via Stadia and friends this will be a problem of the past.
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So it was banning Linux gamers using a literal hack to get the game (that they had purchased) to work. Well, fair enough then.No, you still cannot play as it won't work.Nothing new here, Bungie banning linux gamers from Destiny 2 too. Because of reasons...Wrong. Destiny 2 was banning Linux gamers using a literal hack to work around anti-cheat, anyone banned using it dug their own grave.
Oh, so it is safe to play? I refrained from it because of that. I think we really need a wiki page with sources on topics like these...
... I know, I know, I do get the logic. I do think that in theory the way this stuff seems to work, game publishers of games that use Anti-Cheat systems ought to ban all purchasers of the games from playing them. After all, while it's marginally less obvious than with Linux gamers, all gamers could be cheating by doing something that gets around the Anti-Cheat system, without the game publishers being able to detect it. Just because most of them aren't actually cheating shouldn't matter; that isn't apparently the issue with Linux gamers, just that they potentially could be--but the same is true of everyone else. Ban everybody! Much cheaper servers that way.
Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 5 Jan 2020 at 10:12 pm UTC
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As if EA needed another bad thing to their name.
Sad but predictable.
Sad but predictable.
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Well, it is EA after all. Unless some major changes come about, I'll never purchase any games from them. Speak with your wallet folks. Here's a interesting link from Consumerist magazine.
https://consumerist.com/2012/04/congratulations-ea-you-are-the-worst-company-in-america-for-2012.html
They won again in 2013 btw. ;)
Even if some "major change" came about and EA became magically Linux friendly, they've done enough over the years that they've permanently turned me from fan to lifelong boycott. EA won't see a single penny from me ever again. There's quite enough other developers out there that actually want my money. I think I'll just y'know... Buy stuff from them folk instead...
Last edited by BlooAlien on 25 Jan 2020 at 11:25 pm UTC
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orochi_kyo 5 Jan 2020
we don't have the slow downs, hangs, random crashes.Yep. No games , no problems.
auto reboots for the updates that the windows gamers has.Windows does not have such problems. The problem is on the chair in front of the monitor.
Not sure if anything has changed, but the last time i used it about two years ago it kicked me out while playing multiplayer games when there was an update. Also you could turn settings that makes stuff better, but then there is an update that makes you turn on settings and your old settings have been changed to different ones. That was two years ago. One of the things that really made me get out from it, because the constant hassle of having to set things up for your liking and never really getting anywhere. Not to mention how much ads there were. For a product that i payed money (meaning that i bought 8.1 for 10) it was unacceptable. Truly a garbage product. Maybe some have had better luck with Windows, but that was my experience of it.
Now even if things would have changed i would never go back, because they have done it once and im sure they will do stuff like that again or maybe even something worse.
Don't waste your time with a Windows drone. We have 6000 hundred games, they even denied that straight fact. Also, Cortana using Bing as the default search option... They will say, "there is a tweak for that", why I have to be "tweaking" Windows for something that it should be there a simple option?
About the post, this is what you get for playing EA games, it suits them well.
Last edited by orochi_kyo on 5 Jan 2020 at 11:20 pm UTC
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It seems fishy that Battlefield V works fine for many Linux gamers in Wine. My hunch is some sort of cheat was ran inside Wine or cheating behavior (like camping or wall hacks) and they got reported.
It's clear Linux isn't the OS to game on if you are wanting to play Windows-only AAA online multiplayer games. It seems a better solution would be to play these game via PS4 Remote Play with the Chiaki client if you own a Playstation 4 or Steam Remote Play if you own a second computer running Windows. I have both myself but use the latter mostly. Fortnite and Destiny 2 are fun to play and Remote Play over Crossover doesn't have the router lag / latency.
All you need for a headless stream server is a long Ethernet or Crossover cable and an HDMI or VGA dummy display adapter. You'll also want to set up VNC to easily remote into the system outside of Remote Play when needed.
Last edited by Xaero_Vincent on 6 Jan 2020 at 12:54 am UTC
It's clear Linux isn't the OS to game on if you are wanting to play Windows-only AAA online multiplayer games. It seems a better solution would be to play these game via PS4 Remote Play with the Chiaki client if you own a Playstation 4 or Steam Remote Play if you own a second computer running Windows. I have both myself but use the latter mostly. Fortnite and Destiny 2 are fun to play and Remote Play over Crossover doesn't have the router lag / latency.
All you need for a headless stream server is a long Ethernet or Crossover cable and an HDMI or VGA dummy display adapter. You'll also want to set up VNC to easily remote into the system outside of Remote Play when needed.
Last edited by Xaero_Vincent on 6 Jan 2020 at 12:54 am UTC
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This highlights the need to work with companies like Valve and Codeweavers to solve the anti cheat conundrum in their compatibility layer solutions. That is the only thing holding back linux gaming at present
I don't know if they are the only things the size of the market and the community a large are two main issues but yes a work around for anti cheat for liNux couldn't hurt
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