Announced just now during CES 2020, AMD have revealed their Radeon RX 5600 XT graphics cards aimed at being the "ultimate 1080p gaming experience". During the event, AMD showed some 1080p benchmarks across a bunch Windows games at "max settings", where it showed the Radeon RX 5600 XT beating an NVIDIA 1660Ti. Additionally, there will be a lower Radeon RX 5600 (no XT) model.
Specifications
| Radeon RX 5600 XT | Radeon RX 5600 |
| Architecture: RDNA | Architecture: RDNA |
| Compute Units: 36 | Compute Units: 32 |
| Stream Processors: 2304 | Stream Processors: 2048 |
| Clock "up to" 1375MHz game "up to" 1560MHz boost |
Clock "up to" 1375MHz game "up to" 1560MHz boost |
| 6GB GDDR6 | 6GB GDDR6 |
For availability, they're saying the AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT will be available January 21st for $279, with the lower AMD Radeon RX 5600 expected within Q1 this year but no price mentioned. On top of that, they also stated that both the 5600M and 5700M mobile graphics chips will also start appearing in the first half of this year. If you value the open source drivers for AMD GPUs, the Radeon RX 5600 XT sounds like quite a tidy unit that would be good for some 1080p gaming.
Just before that though, they talked a bunch about the new AMD Ryzen 4000 U-Series (Zen 2, 7nm), their new mobile processors. The model mentioned on stage was the AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, but there's going to be a lot more in the series. AMD Ryzen 7 4800U specifications:
- 8 cores and 16 threads
- 1.8GHz base with a 4.2GHz boost
- 8 Radeon Cores
- 15W TDP
AMD CEO, Lisa Su, mentioned while on stage that the "8 Radeon Cores" have had a "tremendous amount of optimisation" with them being based on the Vega architecture but they have "59% more performance than the previous generation". Sounds like we're going to be seeing a lot of these mobile Ryzen units too! AMD CEO, Lisa Su, stated on stage across this year "100+" systems will be shipping in various form factors.
After that, the AMD Ryzen 7 4800H was announced with:
- 8 cores and 16 threads.
- 2.9GHz base with 4.2GHz boost clock.
- 45W TDP.
They're claiming it offers desktop-level performance for mobile. They also showed a quick chart of the Ryzen 7 4800H stacked up against an Intel i7 9700k desktop processor, showing it performing better in the 3DMark FireStrike Physics benchmark. It's coming to various notebooks a bit later this year, Q2 was mentioned for at least one of them.
AMD ended it on quite a high note introducing the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X which will be available on February 7 this year. An absolute monster of a CPU, with AMD naturally keen to mention how they're again first at stuffing this many cores into a consumer CPU.
Specifications:
- 64 cores and 128 threads
- 2.9GHz base with 4.3GHz boost
- 288MB total cache
- 280W TDP
You can see the AMD CES 2020 event video here. I believe that covers all the most interesting stuff that AMD announced during their presentation today.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Quoting: PikoloAnd they have their own Optimus-like approach, which Mesa might hopefully be able to support
Are they using 2 GPUs there? Why would they need something Optimus-like? And if anything, they are supporting PRIME, so you won't need anything special to use it in multi-GPU setup.
Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: subNo big Navi announcement?
How disappointing. Really.
Especially as an announcement doesn't even mean it's around the corner.
They are likely still working on RDNA2. Would be nice to get something more powerful than 5700 XT, but not really at crazy prices that approach $1000. I suspect their immediate "big Navi" is aiming at replacing Radeon VII which is going to be very expensive.
I don't think RDNA2 for the next product lineup is not done yet.
Maybe it still needs tweaking on the driver side because of RT or whatever.
It's a pity...
Sounds like we won't get big Navi before autumn.
Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: PikoloAnd they have their own Optimus-like approach, which Mesa might hopefully be able to support
Are they using 2 GPUs there? Why would they need something Optimus-like? And if anything, they are supporting PRIME, so you won't need anything special to use it in multi-GPU setup.
They're trying to give their gaming laptops more power by making it use both the integrated and dedicated GPU, at the same time if I understand. They call it "Smart Shift" and it's the part I'm curious if Mesa can support it. Prime within Mesa obviously works.
Source: https://adoredtv.com/amd-ces-presentation-live-blog/
Arehandoro Jan 7, 2020
Don't get me wrong, I'm more than happy with my 5700, but it seems we are always hoping for the next big thing due to unfulfilled expectations of current generation over and over.
Quote"ultimate 1080p gaming experience"
* laughs in 1440p *
What are they thinking? 1080p is from 5 years ago, why infest in old stuff? Why no new cards for ultimate 2k or 4k experience? In this sector NVidia is still the way to go sadly
Quoting: GrimfistWhat are they thinking? 1080p is from 5 years ago, why infest in old stuff?Steam stats:
Quote1280 x 1024 1.23%Any questions?
1360 x 768 1.29%
1366 x 768 8.60%
1920 x 1080 69.27% +4.64%
2560 x 1440 6.74% +1.25%
3840 x 2160 1.51% -0.33%
Quoting: GrimfistThe 5700 (XT) they brought out months ago was aimed at 1440p.Quote"ultimate 1080p gaming experience"
* laughs in 1440p *
What are they thinking? 1080p is from 5 years ago, why infest in old stuff? Why no new cards for ultimate 2k or 4k experience? In this sector NVidia is still the way to go sadly
And I'm happily using one for 1080p gaming BTW.
Quoting: tuubiThe 5700 (XT) they brought out months ago was aimed at 1440p.
Resolution alone isn't the only factor. For example with TW3 (dxvk), 5700 XT doesn't fully use 2560x1400 / 144 Hz. I.e. right now it maxes out at around 80-110 fps. So depending on the monitor refresh rate, the card can be utilized fully and still not reach the potential maximum of the monitor.
Last edited by Shmerl on 7 January 2020 at 5:29 pm UTC
Quoting: ShmerlThat wasn't my point. AMD specifically mentioned 1440p gaming in some of their marketing materials. Also, I don't know what 144Hz has to do with the resolution.Quoting: tuubiThe 5700 (XT) they brought out months ago was aimed at 1440p.
Resolution alone isn't the only factor.
Last edited by tuubi on 7 January 2020 at 5:38 pm UTC
Quoting: tuubiThat wasn't my point. AMD specifically mentioned 1440p gaming in some of their marketing materials. Also, I don't know what 144Hz has to do with the resolution.
Computational load increases with both resolution and framerate. Maximum refresh rate is the limit, beyond which you don't benefit from framerate. I.e. if refresh rate is 144 Hz, framerate up until 144 fps is still useful, but beyond that - not anymore, since monitor can't display it anyway.
If something is running at less than 144 fps, while the GPU is loaded to 100%, it means for that use case, the card is not sufficient enough to benefit from the monitor capabilities fully and getting a more powerful card would help. If it shoots over 144 fps while the GPU is loaded less than 100%, it means the card is an overkill for that use case.
The optimum is the case when it goes just slightly above.
What AMD said by 1440p is some rough average intent, not that it can handle everything at that resolution with maxed out useful framerate.
Last edited by Shmerl on 7 January 2020 at 5:50 pm UTC
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