Serious Sam Collection & Panzer Dragoon announced for Stadia plus some timed exclusives

With Anti-Cheat systems unsupported by Proton and Wine and used by the hottest games right now, cloud gaming is a very viable option for us Linux gamers.

It sucks that Blizzard / Activision pulled out of GeForce Now but it isn't a loss for us, since Overwatch, WOW, Starcraft 2, and Diablo III all work fine in Wine + Lutris. The only real loss for us was Call of Duty franchise, since the newer games don't work in Wine; That said, I can live without that hugely 'over-milked' game franchise.

Maybe Stadia will get these games removed from GeForce Now?

GeForce Now has an impressive list of games supported, including many anti-cheat enabled free-to-play titles:

https://www.gfnlist.com/

GeForce Now is unsupported on Linux and doesn't work in Anbox, Wine, or even a Windows VM but there is a way to make the Android client work in a VM. I painstakingly wrote a guide on Reddit on how to do it for those that want to try it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/f0jkja/guide_geforce_now_app_on_linux/


Last edited by Xaero_Vincent on 14 February 2020 at 12:35 am UTC

With Anti-Cheat systems unsupported by Proton and Wine and used by the hottest games right now, cloud gaming is a very viable option for us Linux gamers.

Unless you have bad internet like I do.

With Anti-Cheat systems unsupported by Proton and Wine and used by the hottest games right now, cloud gaming is a very viable option for us Linux gamers.

Unless you have bad internet like I do.

Well GeForce Now has a minimum requirement of 15 Mbps; I currently have 40 Mbps VDSL service in my home.

That said, I did notice that you can lower the max streaming bit-rate all the way down to 4 Mbps in the Android app. So perhaps it can work on slow internet at 720p30 @ 4 Mbps as long as your internet speed is at least a bit above 4 Mbps?



Last edited by Xaero_Vincent on 14 February 2020 at 1:21 am UTC

I hope Google learns from Nvidia and starts offering a away to play games you already have in your Steam/GOG libraries rather than having to buy online-only versions of those games.

However Google already have NVIDIA beat in one respect which is Linux support since Stadia works on Linux, GeForce Now currently does not.

More importantly, Stadia actually runs Linux, while Geforce Now runs Windows. Not something Linux gamers should be striving to support.

I hope Google learns from Nvidia and starts offering a away to play games you already have in your Steam/GOG libraries rather than having to buy online-only versions of those games.

For whatever reason, Google decided not to use Wine, so they are only adding native games which will be a slow process. If anything, I expect Valve to roll out some streaming service where Wine will be used to expand the library of native Linux games. After all, they directly invested into Wine / Proton development.


Last edited by Shmerl on 14 February 2020 at 2:17 am UTC

Stadia definitely needs to embrace Wine w/ DXVK to increase the game selection.

The biggest problem is you have to buy the games AGAIN to play them on Stadia and if Google decides to remove the games or cancel their service, you're out the $60 or whatever you've spent on the games.

Yeah, I hope Valve hops onto the Streaming bandwagon. They already have Remote Play that works over the Internet and on a LAN and the next logical step is to offer cloud servers to stream the games.


Last edited by Xaero_Vincent on 14 February 2020 at 3:04 am UTC

I am hoping Valve's Steam Cloud will come out soon. It will be very hard for me to use Stadia. Knowing I am paying or using a service from a company that would overthrow Linux, with their ChromeOS, and that often censors their services isn't okay with me. Valve on other hand seems to be fair. Even if you are skeptical to my "claims", you can already see Stadia is not much better than EGS in that they engage in exclusivity too. Which is a bad thing in general for gaming on PC.

I've tested Remote Play (more) and it will be a decent solution when I need to stream. That said, if Stadia's success will bring alot improvements to Linux ecosystem (particularly Desktop), then I am all for it. It's understandable to me though if anyone on Linux uses Stadia, afterall it lets you play games you couldn't otherwise and you are still using Linux for that.

EDIT: And if Google wanted positivity both for ChromeOS and Desktop Linux, they would encourage developers to not only provide their games via streaming on both platforms, but also local versions. But they aren't doing that...


Last edited by Linuxwarper on 14 February 2020 at 9:26 pm UTC

I hope Google learns from Nvidia and starts offering a away to play games you already have in your Steam/GOG libraries rather than having to buy online-only versions of those games.

they have to, or else i dont see a reason why anyone should use stadia

and nvidia has to support more platforms, or put it into a browser

i still wonder how they can offer it for free. there are no ads. just waiting time sometimes

I hope Google learns from Nvidia and starts offering a away to play games you already have in your Steam/GOG libraries rather than having to buy online-only versions of those games.

they have to, or else i dont see a reason why anyone should use stadia

Well, they don't have to use Stadia exclusively. I think the idea is, people would use Stadia for Stadia exclusives because they have no choice, and maybe increasingly for a few other games as games are added, and they'd still use Steam the rest of the time. Gradually over time Google would hope for the Stadia libraries to grow and maybe for people to spend more time with Stadia games because of, say, the convenience of being able to continue the same game from different locations or something (although I suppose cloud saves on Steam would get you that anyway), and thus over a few years for people's libraries of Stadia games to gradually supplant other ones.
I have doubts it will work, but I presume that's the idea--you don't have to do a hard cutover.

and nvidia has to support more platforms, or put it into a browser

i still wonder how they can offer it for free. there are no ads.

Yet. There are no ads yet. For how many years were there no ads in Youtube videos?


Last edited by Purple Library Guy on 14 February 2020 at 10:07 pm UTC

stadia needs to have very big exclusiv titles to get customers

i havent tried stadia yet, but some games on NOW
apex, crew, assassins creed, mad max,... they work pretty good and it is free for 1 hour sessions

if i want stadia i have to buy at least the games

i hope NOW comes to linux soon, then i stick with it.
i appreciate that google uses linux for stadia, but for now i think its best, if we theoretically can stream all games from steam, uplay, epic, origin, etc instead of waiting for ports on stadia and have to pay twice

for me the latency wasnt that bad. maybe some win users come to linux, if they can stream fortnite and apex... both are not on staida for now

Lag will be always there no matter if you have 1GB download/ upload of the internet.
You cant defy physics thinking your Internet speed will be ignoring the fact you are playing in a computer that is in another city, country or even continent.
Stadia is a service for rich kids, living in first-world cities, the fact is it seems these rich kids can actually buy a PC good enough to run any game without the hassle of adding more delay to the gaming formula.

Now I can imagine people blaming lag in a split-screen competitive game. LOL. Surely Cloud gaming is here at least for the memes.

It is bogus or dummy thinking Windows users will come to Linux because Apex and Fortnite players would have the chance of playing those games on Linux, they are already playing them very nice on Windows. Why would they install Linux?

Stadia will bring nobody to Linux, it just makes some games to be available for the platform, games that work really well on Windows already.

The only chance I see for cloud gaming is the fact there are more gamers, with every newborn child becoming a gamer because gaming is so attached to popular culture, more users, more chance of getting a player base.

UNLESS you are ignoring the fact that most ISP are looking for charging extra bucks to those users who download tons of stuff on home Internet connections as they do with phone ones. Also since the neutrality of the internet is in danger we could see ISP providers charging extra money to users or companies for the use of their network... So it seems with all these things happenings that having your fav games in your hard disk is still your best choice.

Lag will be always there no matter if you have 1GB download/ upload of the internet.
You cant defy physics thinking your Internet speed will be ignoring the fact you are playing in a computer that is in another city, country or even continent.

Well, if you're in a place with last-mile fiber and otherwise good internet infrastructure you could come pretty close. Plus, Google's strength for this is, it has servers bloody everywhere so the distance won't be that far. So it should work great in South Korea. Not sure about anywhere else.

Lag will be always there no matter if you have 1GB download/ upload of the internet.
You cant defy physics thinking your Internet speed will be ignoring the fact you are playing in a computer that is in another city, country or even continent.
Stadia is a service for rich kids, living in first-world cities, the fact is it seems these rich kids can actually buy a PC good enough to run any game without the hassle of adding more delay to the gaming formula.

this is such a big nonsense
have you tried it? i got a 100Mbit/s connection and i am definitely not rich. as i said NOW works great and the imput lag isnt noticeable
if you play it for fun it is very playable

i cant tell about you ISP, but i have unlimited download. i download almost 1TB a month and they dont care
they have to get used to it, because i watch a lot of youtube videos and netflix.. so whats the difference? it doesnt matter if i watch a movie on netflix, or stream a game.. in both cases i stream a lot of pictures

i heard some people, that they would switch to linux, if they could play all games. doesnt have to be fortnite, or apex
why would they switch? BECAUSE LINUX ISNT A SPYWARE LIKE WIN10

Internet connections vary greatly from country to country. Data caps, speed, latency, cost, etc.
In Australia (anywhere), yes for Stadia you would need to pay a bit more. In say London, perhaps not.
I've even seen contracts with unlimited data for non-commercial use, meaning the ISP investigates if you're using "too much".

It's not so cut & dry sadly.

Indeed, you can get an internet service in the UK that will run Stadia happily for ~£20 a month with no limits to the data. It's of course not the same for every country but the internet tech is here already, just not everywhere and over time these cloud gaming services absolutely will force ISP's to adapt if they continue to get bigger and more popular - just like video streaming did as it got massive.

I've had Stadia now for ~3 months and the only single issue I've had was last night, where the game crashed. I reloaded and was put right back where I was within about 15 seconds - it works, plain and simple.