System76, Linux hardware and software vendor has today formally begun teasing the new 'Lemur Pro' laptop and it's their most open yet.
With a price that will start at $1099 it's not going to be a low-end machine, far from it, sounds like a sweet unit for many uses. System76 say you will be able to "Watch all of Lord of the Rings in 10 hours. Read Wikipedia articles for 16 hours or write code in VIM for 21 hours straight…without plugging in", at the default brightness level. Pretty good sounding battery life, compared with my own laptop lasting all of 2 hours doing anything.
Okay, so what makes it their 'most open yet?'. Well, they're going to be using System76 Open Firmware for starters which includes Coreboot, EDK2, System76 Firmware Apps. It's also going to have their open source embedded controller firmware System76 EC.
As for some specifications, get a load of this:
| Operating System |
Pop!_OS 19.10 (64-bit), Pop!_OS 18.04 LTS (64-bit), or Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (64-bit) |
| Processor |
10th Gen Intel® Core i5-10210U: 1.6 up to 4.2 GHz - 6MB Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads 10th Gen Intel® Core i7-10510U: 1.8 up to 4.9 GHz - 8MB Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads |
| Display |
14.1″ 1920×1080 IPS, Matte Finish |
| Graphics |
Intel® UHD Graphics |
| Memory |
Up to 40 GB DDR4 @ 2666 MHz |
| Storage |
2× M.2 SSD. Up to 4TB total. |
| Expansion |
USB 3.1 Type-C, 2× USB 3.0 Type-A, MicroSD Card Reader |
| Dimensions |
12.64″ × 8.5″ × 0.61″ (32.1 × 21.6 × 1.55 cm) |
There's no exact date mentioned on when it will go live, however we've been told they will be sending out details on that sometime soon.
I am once again getting some serious hardware envy, sounds like a good machine. Good screen, great battery life, plenty of ports and lots of storage space backed up by some reasonably strong other internals with the recent Intel CPU.
Check out the System76 Lemur Pro here.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
At that price level, Intel CPU (whith that GPU) cannot be really competitive against any AMD APU-based laptop (including the windows tax).
Luke_Nukem Mar 23, 2020
Kimyrielle Mar 23, 2020
Quoting: gregfI want AMD not intel, and I want a good keyboard like on a think pad. Till then it's a no go for me.
If I am not totally mistaken, that's because AMD doesn't have a competitive on-board GPU solution. It also is not considered a force for dedicated mobile GPUs. Intel still kinda has a monopoly on that. Which is why nobody considers AMD for building a laptop, still.
I otherwise agree with the sentiment. I'd love to see a good AMD laptop platform one day.
Quoting: KimyrielleIf I am not totally mistaken, that's because AMD doesn't have a competitive on-board GPU solution. It also is not considered a force for dedicated mobile GPUs. Intel still kinda has a monopoly on that. Which is why nobody considers AMD for building a laptop, still.
This is outdated information. AMD has the best onboard graphics available. Their onboard Vega 11 GPU is quite a bit faster than even a dedicated GT 1030 or Nvidia's MX250 dedicated laptop GPU.
Last edited by Kon on 23 March 2020 at 10:31 pm UTC
https://twitter.com/jeremy_soller/status/1241373956398919682
For System76 the problem with AMD is poor support for Coreboot. But it looks like there are some positive developments.
Last edited by Shmerl on 23 March 2020 at 11:09 pm UTC
holisticboy Mar 24, 2020
Quoting: KonQuoting: KimyrielleIf I am not totally mistaken, that's because AMD doesn't have a competitive on-board GPU solution. It also is not considered a force for dedicated mobile GPUs. Intel still kinda has a monopoly on that. Which is why nobody considers AMD for building a laptop, still.
This is outdated information. AMD has the best onboard graphics available. Their onboard Vega 11 GPU is quite a bit faster than even a dedicated GT 1030 or Nvidia's MX250 dedicated laptop GPU.
Yup, and the AMDGPU support is built into the Kernel, so you don't need to configure any drivers out of the box! When I had my first gen Ryzen 2700u laptop part, it was working much better than the Windows equivalent due to this factor.
Cyba.Cowboy Mar 24, 2020
Quoting: BoldosWhy oh why do they keep shoving Intell stuff down the consumer's throats? :><:
At that price level, Intel CPU (whith that GPU) cannot be really competitive against any AMD APU-based laptop (including the windows tax).
Quoting: gregfI want AMD not intel, and I want a good keyboard like on a think pad. Till then it's a no go for me.
I agree.
Whilst I prefer a laptop with NVIDIA components - primarily because I single-boot Linux and NVIDIA stuff is considerably better for everything graphics-related in the Linux world - I would take a pure AMD setup over a pure Intel setup any day of the week... Not a fan of all this love for Intel in recent times.
Quoting: Luke_NukemWhy do so many laptop photos have the laptop screen flat back like that? I don't understand the purpose.
Glad I'm not the only one that has often wondered this...
Quoting: holisticboyYup, and the AMDGPU support is built into the Kernel, so you don't need to configure any drivers out of the box! When I had my first gen Ryzen 2700u laptop part, it was working much better than the Windows equivalent due to this factor.
It wasn't always this way... Admittedly, it has been some years since I've used an AMD laptop - I used them almost exclusively until 2012-ish and then gave up - but all the AMD laptops I had used up to that point required a bit of work to get them to play nice, usually with sub-standard performance afterwards (in comparison to similar laptops with NVIDIA components).
This is a great step in the right direction - Intel and NVIDIA are gods when it comes to Linux, but they have too much power (which hurts competition, among other things), and neither is especially trustworthy or "open"...
Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy on 24 March 2020 at 3:31 am UTC
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