On a budget? Good news for you, as AMD are expanding their third-gen Ryzen processor list with the Ryzen 3 3100 and Ryzen 3 3300X. Announced today, they might be aimed at the budget market but they still look to pack a good punch.
Models:
AMD Ryzen 3 3300X
- 4 cores / 8 threads
- 65 watt TDP
- 4.3 GHz boost / 3.8GHz base
- Expected price: $120
AMD Ryzen 3 3100
- 4 cores / 8 threads
- 65 watt TDP
- 3.9 GHz boost / 3.6GHz base
- Expected price: $99
Both are expected to launch in May 2020.
Additionally, AMD also announced the B550 chipset for the AM4 socket. What looks to be the cheapest chipset with compatibility for PCIe 4.0. AMD said they expected motherboards to ship with the B550 chipset from June 16 onwards.
From the press release:
"Games and applications are becoming more and more demanding, and with this, users are demanding more from their PCs," said Saeid Moshkelani, senior vice president and general manager, client business unit. "AMD is committed to providing solutions that meet and exceed those demands for all levels of computing. With the addition of these new Ryzen 3 desktop processors we are continuing this commitment with our mainstream gaming customers. We’ve taken performance up a level, doubling the processing threads of our Ryzen 3 processors to propel gaming and multitasking experiences to new heights."
Certainly no shortage of choice on good desktop processors now. Are looking to build a new PC, what processor will you be looking at?
Quoting: Guestmost games, at least on Linux, don't really use more than 4 coresI would say the opposite. The newest games I've played recently seem to be very good at multi-threading - Shadow of the TR, Doom Eternal, Wolfenstein 2, Resident Evil 3...
Quoting: The_Aquabatsome b450 and some b350 have been bios enabled for PCIE 4.0 compatibility, mine has, it's a b350 (gigabyte gaming ver 1 ).
Whoa, nice, didn't know about this, that's cool! I decided to look into this more and found tihs article: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-b450-x470-motherboards-pcie-4.0-support,39859.html
Unfortunately for me, the Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming board I use for HTPC does not support PCIE4.
Quoting: ageresRyzen 5 2600 is better but has the same price.
Quoting: Guestmost games, at least on Linux, don't really use more than 4 coresI would say the opposite. The newest games I've played recently seem to be very good at multi-threading - Shadow of the TR, Doom Eternal, Wolfenstein 2, Resident Evil 3...
Don't take that for granted, but I think that many actual games are targeting 4 cores CPUs, but that doesn't make these Ryzens future proof. This said, it's my impression from info I found here and there, it might already be outdated and there are probably others, in this forum, that are in a much better situation than me to comfirm that.
Here is an exemple of what I'm referring to:
Witcher 3 - DX11 - Scaling
You may have more than 4 cores, but there is not much gain from that... For the moment. I'm quite sure that if/when 8 cores become the mainstream solution and with Vulkan :) and DX12 adoption, developers will find a way of taping in that potential.
Last edited by Mohandevir on 21 April 2020 at 7:49 pm UTC
Ryzen 3 3300X
3.8 to 4,3Ghz
4 cores, 8 threads
L1 cache 256kb
L2 cache 2MB
L3 cache 16MB
Ryzen 5 3600
3.6 to 4.2Ghz
6 cores, 12 threads
L1 cache 384KB
L2 cache 3MB
L3 cache 32MB
Prices here in the USA aren't much different than usual. I can get a RX5700 for about $330, RX 5600 $270, or an RX5500 for $180.
We can easily get CPU's at MSRP.
Last edited by Dragunov on 22 April 2020 at 12:57 am UTC
Quoting: MohandevirHere is an exemple of what I'm referring to:What about games those aren't 5 years old?
Witcher 3 - DX11 - Scaling
Quoting: ageresQuoting: MohandevirHere is an exemple of what I'm referring to:What about games those aren't 5 years old?
Witcher 3 - DX11 - Scaling
Like Shadow of the Tomb Raider?
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/shadow_of_the_tomb_raider_pc_performance_review/7
6fps between 4 cores to 8 cores.
Doom Eternal seems to be taking advantage of more cores:
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/doom_eternal_pc_performance_analysis_and_optimisation_guide/3
But still it can perform well on 2 cores/4threads when paired with a good gpu, as noted by the author.
Rage 2:
https://wccftech.com/rage-2-pc-core-scaling-and-graphics-cards-performance-explored/
It seems to be a per game thing.
Looking forward to the cpu scaling of Metro: Exodus with my Ryzen 5 3600.
Last edited by Mohandevir on 22 April 2020 at 3:32 am UTC
Quoting: Mohandevir6fps between 4 cores to 8 cores.I'd say, +10% is a significant amount of growth. Maybe much bigger price differences between CPUs make it unworthy, but at least it shows that games actually do use multithreading. Doubling cores doesn't mean doubling the performance.
Quoting: MohandevirIt seems to be a per game thing.Sure, but with new 8C16T consoles coming, I believe all AAA games are going to be multithreaded, using 16 threads efficiently. For people who want to build a gaming computer without the need to upgrade it in the next few years, I would recommend a Ryzen 7 or at least six-core Ryzen 5.
Last edited by ageres on 22 April 2020 at 5:43 am UTC
Quoting: The_AquabatPrices in the EU don't seem that bad. At least here in Finland the RX5700 XT is cheaper than it was before the pandemic when I bought mine.Quoting: armageddon51Currently the 2600 is $174 at Newegg. It is a though choice but the pricing of the 3300X at $120 is pretty much on the spot.who would be able to buy at those prices?? with supplies chains collapsing, prices have skyrocketed, for example it's practically imposible to find NAVI cards at MSRP.
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