Google confirm EA games coming to Stadia, PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds out now and free for Pro

Quoting: silmeth

Quoting: CorbenWhat? PUPG natively on Linux? Without Easy Anticheat, as you cannot cheat on Stadia? Or how does that work? I mean if you connect to the PUPG servers, they are checking if the client runs EAC, aren't they? Maybe the Linux native EAC client.
But the PUBP devs already said, no native Linux support, at least not for end users... so I guess they won't release it on Steam.

They probably just exempt all the clients connecting from Google servers’ network from the anticheat check. Or all clients with some secret key that is present only in the Stadia builds. Or something like that. Anyway, I would guess that the Stadia clients don’t have any client-side anticheat software and the PUBG servers just let Stadia clients, and only Stadia clients, connect without it.

As Stadia has crossplay with consoles I suspect that those servers doesn't have easy anticheat check as they are "console only" servers.


Last edited by x_wing on 28 April 2020 at 7:43 pm UTC

Quoting: x_wing

Quoting: silmeth

Quoting: CorbenWhat? PUPG natively on Linux? Without Easy Anticheat, as you cannot cheat on Stadia? Or how does that work? I mean if you connect to the PUPG servers, they are checking if the client runs EAC, aren't they? Maybe the Linux native EAC client.
But the PUBP devs already said, no native Linux support, at least not for end users... so I guess they won't release it on Steam.

They probably just exempt all the clients connecting from Google servers’ network from the anticheat check. Or all clients with some secret key that is present only in the Stadia builds. Or something like that. Anyway, I would guess that the Stadia clients don’t have any client-side anticheat software and the PUBG servers just let Stadia clients, and only Stadia clients, connect without it.

As Stadia has crossplay with consoles I suspect that those servers doesn't have easy anticheat check as they are "console only" servers.

True, if they don’t have any cross-play with PCs, then that’s the most obvious solution.

Couple of things I've observed while I tested Stadia on various systems around the house (PCs and laptops). These might be true for my hardware, so don't take this as a guide or anything.

There is this assumption that Stadia will run on everything, everywhere. No, it won't.
You need a system beefy enough to decode the video stream as fast as possible, just throwing Stadia on a shitty PC/laptop won't work with good results. At best you'll get stutter and a weird lag (that can be measured in seconds) and you might be tempted to put the blame on Google's servers or a bad connection. So basically, don't confuse the video decoding lag (for which your system is to blame) with Google's servers/connection lag. Of course, you still need a good connection to begin with.

The ideal option would be actual GPU hardware acceleration for video decoding, and I say actual because that hardware acceleration setting in Chrome is useless. There is an old guide (I'll post below the link) that details how to achieve that. Note that for Google's default VP9 stream the decoding is problematic and you'll need to force it (with the Stadia+ extension) to H264, which looks a bit worse.

The alternative option is CPU video decoding, but again, the CPU still needs to be powerful enough to decode the stream with no hiccups. Also, you might need to put it in performance mode if you still notice stutter. If the CPU is not strong enough you can try to force the stream to H264, which is less demanding to decode. Don't even think at 4K.

As for the video quality, the incoming stream from Stadia looks a bit washed up and less detailed compared with a local instance. To partially remedy that you can enable Vulkan for your browser and add the vkBasalt layer on top of it, with whatever features you find necessary.
I have added here cas for sharpening and curves (you can also try fakehdr) to bring back some color and contrast. Look at the dam in the background (use the slider):

https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxtapose/latest/embed/index.html?uid=ec0e0aea-898b-11ea-a879-0edaf8f81e27

Hardware acceleration guide


Last edited by dubigrasu on 29 April 2020 at 7:15 pm UTC

Hot damn, didn't even think to try vkBasalt, clever :)

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: scaineIt absolutely kills me that games like Destiny 2 and PUBG can now run on Linux, but I can't play them, except through Google's proprietary bandwidth hog.

Kills. Me.

I mean, great that people can benefit and play it. Especially until the end of May while it's still free. But I have zero interest in this model of gaming. And it hurts. It really hurts! :)

To each their own. I've paid a flat fee each month, got a bunch of big games to play and now PUBG too and I can play them all basically anywhere and on Linux. It's pretty nice.

Does it work with a Steam Controller?

Yes. Any gamepad Chromium/Chrome picks up correctly should work.

Nice... I was in doubt since outside of Steam the SC defaults to K+M emulation. I was wondering if you need something like Kozec's driver?

Yeah, using SC Controller makes the Steam Controller work with Stadia.

Quoting: vector

Quoting: MohandevirDoes it work with a Steam Controller?

leillo1975 recently reported the Steam Controller did not work for him using Chrome on Linux. A post earlier in that thread listed all the peripherals that should be supported.

See above, works.

No different than a lot of games outside of Steam also needing SC Controller for the Steam Controller.


Last edited by Liam Dawe on 28 April 2020 at 9:32 pm UTC

EA porting games to Linux? Nah!
I bet EA use some compatibility layer like Proton.... Even Proton itself.

Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: GuestWhen Google introduces a option to Download the games not just streaming i might consider using it.

Not sure how this would work. Since they have and use Linux builds, the option to download the game would mean nothing to the vast majority of their users. And even for us, those exact Linux builds might not work at all.

i think he is afraid of cloud lock-in, so even an windows build is better than nothing

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: GuestWhen Google introduces a option to Download the games not just streaming i might consider using it.

Not sure how this would work. Since they have and use Linux builds, the option to download the game would mean nothing to the vast majority of their users. And even for us, those exact Linux builds might not work at all.

i think he is afraid of cloud lock-in, so even an windows build is better than nothing

So basically if Valve implements streaming for your Steam library, you'd have what you want. The ability to install locally for the best quality and offline play and the ability to stream when you want to. Alternatively Google could start an online store with regular builds as an added option. I think the first one is probably more likely.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoEA porting games to Linux? Nah!
I bet EA use some compatibility layer like Proton.... Even Proton itself.

EA use Frostbite for a lot of things, and despite some interesting challenges that I've heard about with it, does seemingly support quite a range of renderers.

Take this for example:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-frostbite-engine-apparently-has-partial-linux-support-but-that-doesnt-mean-well-get-ports-anytime-soon.10310/page=3

(--edit: EA are also a Khronos member, specifically for Vulkan)
(--bonus edit: and don't forget this - https://www.ea.com/seed/news/khronos-munich-2018-halcyon-vulkan )

Also, the games aren't ported to desktop GNU/Linux. They're ported to Stadia, and Google does have some level of necessary build steps, quality, and performance to be applied which make wine (or any bundled package based on wine) unsuitable. Stadia is a single hardware target, with a backing company for support, making it not so different to releasing on consoles.

And actually Stadia isn't even trying to go against Windows from a certain point of view. Most of the prospective playerbase are going to be using Stadia via a Windows machine, with some percentage via chromecast or similar. EA essentially don't need to provide much in the way of support to players either, because there's no direct contact with them (it all goes via Google), so there won't be much ongoing investment. It's a one-off per game really, and not even that because the bulk of the effort doesn't need to be redone for each individual game. The ROI can take a bit longer and still be financially viable.

holy shit! i saw those back in the days, and completely forgot! it makes total sense now!
so, EA added vulkan support and linux support in order to support Stadia, not google.
and as you said, once they ported the engine, porting individual games is a no brainer, the cost to port the games get lower on each relase and the engine cost is diluted on each relase.

so it was not about steam OS after all...

now that we are speaking about it, google may use this oportunity to rise chromeOS marketshare, but i'm afraid that comnpanies now will be less likely to make an linux version of their games or to licence then to port houses like feral.
i mean, just think about it, google is paying then a lot of money to port, why would then port or licence it without such investment?

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: GuestWhen Google introduces a option to Download the games not just streaming i might consider using it.

Not sure how this would work. Since they have and use Linux builds, the option to download the game would mean nothing to the vast majority of their users. And even for us, those exact Linux builds might not work at all.

i think he is afraid of cloud lock-in, so even an windows build is better than nothing

This though assumes that Google has access to and rights to distribute those Windows builds. As for Stadia exclusive games, there are no Windows builds.