Work is underway to better support ASUS ROG laptops on Linux

Quoting: DragunovSo they chose a $2000 laptop that almost no one can afford to start on? That makes perfect sense.

This.

Besides, they should have started with the ASUS ZenBook Duo, which is the laptop I plan to upgrade to in the near future (no, not the monster that is the ASUS ZenBook Pro Duo - which is the laptop I want to buy, but absolutely cannot afford to buy!)... :P

Quoting: DragunovUsually when I install Linux on a Laptop most things already work out of the box. I've never bought an Asus before though.

I use an ASUS laptop now, have done for three-ish years, and I've mostly been happy with it... Everything "just works" on it and unlike pretty much every other laptop I've ever owned, this thing actually stays cool - even when pushing it pretty hard.

The only problem I've ever had with it is that the battery swelled up some point, warping the chassis and touchpad (not sure if it was from me leaning too hard on the palm-rest area or not)... But I don't use the latter and I wouldn't mind an excuse to upgrade.


Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy on 20 April 2020 at 10:26 am UTC

Quoting: EikeWhen comments get just too sheepish, it's time to block. Time is too valuable for such nonsense.

Like clockwork. As fragile as an old fortune cookie.
Those of weak mind will always opt to create a bubble to pretend everyone agrees with them instead of facing the opposition...

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: eldaking

Quoting: EikeDon't let those people take away the word gamer from you. I'm playing games, so I'm a gamer.

On the contrary, I prefer to avoid any association with "gamer culture". I play games; "gamer" is not an identity for me that I just "am a gamer".

That's exactly what I meant by letting them take away the word from you. People associate good general words with special things and spoil them. Let's keep the words. They're ours just as well.

There is no real point to the word "gamer". When you say: I'm a gamer, what are you trying to really say? That you like to play video games? Or that you often play video games? Then just say, I play video-games. It's more descriptive and clear at the same time.

I like to listen to music, but I don't refer to myself as musicer.
I like to watch movies, but I don't refer to myself as watcher.
In the same way, I don't see the need to refer to myself as gamer, unless I want to feel elitist, or part of some jerk-circle.


Last edited by Rooster on 20 April 2020 at 11:44 am UTC

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: EikeWhen comments get just too sheepish, it's time to block. Time is too valuable for such nonsense.

Like clockwork. As fragile as an old fortune cookie.
Those of weak mind will always opt to create a bubble to pretend everyone agrees with them instead of facing the opposition...

1. Those with an inflated ego (like children) always think everybody should be required to listen to their bullshit, and every platform should be made available for them just because they have an opinion.
2. The one with the loudest voice is rarely the one with the strongest mind.
3. Social media platforms are sources of noise, not sources of information. Blocking random internet pests has no downsides.

Quoting: RoosterThere is no real point to the word "gamer". When you say: I'm a gamer, what are you trying to really say? That you like to play video games? Or that you often play video games? Then just say, I play video-games. It's more descriptive and clear at the same time.

I like to listen to music, but I don't refer to myself as musicer.
I like to watch movies, but I don't refer to myself as watcher.
In the same way, I don't see the need to refer to myself as gamer, unless I want to feel elitist, or part of some jerk-cycle.

The word "gamer" is well established:
a person who plays games especially : a person who regularly plays computer or video games
I want to say with the word what it means according to dictionaries.
Not too unusual, right?

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: EikeWhen comments get just too sheepish, it's time to block. Time is too valuable for such nonsense.

Like clockwork. As fragile as an old fortune cookie.
Those of weak mind will always opt to create a bubble to pretend everyone agrees with them instead of facing the opposition...

1. Those with an inflated ego (like children) always think everybody should be required to listen to their bullshit, and every platform should be made available for them just because they have an opinion.
2. The one with the loudest voice is rarely the one with the strongest mind.
3. Social media platforms are sources of noise, not sources of information. Blocking random internet pests has no downsides.

1. Haven't met a single person who thought anything along those lines, but sure, go ahead. You can move your goalposts wherever you want.
2. Agreed. The one who is able to endure opposition without needing "safe spaces" has the strongest mind.
3. Things that are not agreeable = bullshit, everyone who disagress = internet pest. To those with a weak mind, anyway. And thus, the bubble is born, far away from reality. "I do not agree with this, therefore it is nonsense". I do consider giving people the ability to live in a bubble a serious downside as it removes the need to be able to live with dissenting voices. I also consider it a large part of the ever-increasing gap and growing intelorance between people of different viewpoints - instead of dealing with each other, many people just opt to block the other side.
That might give short-term relief, and is super easy to do, but I honestly think it is harmful long-term.

But what do I know? I guess I'm just an internet pest.


Last edited by TheSHEEEP on 20 April 2020 at 11:52 am UTC

@sheep guy

You are quite a hypocrite here, because you seem to have quite a negative reaction whenever you are called out for being an asshole. Maybe YOU need the safe space where you can be an asshole without being challenged.

When people disagree with you, you call them weak minded and whatever the hell else... YOU're the one with the problem here, not everyone else.

Anyway, I had you blocked for a reason.


Last edited by rustybroomhandle on 20 April 2020 at 11:58 am UTC

Quoting: rustybroomhandle@sheep guy

You are quite a hypocrite here, because you seem to have quite a negative reaction whenever you are called out for being an asshole.

Nah, man. I really don't care in the slightest what random internet people think of me.
I am merely calling people out on their weak-mindedness and hypocrisy and showing them that not everyone agrees with their attempts at establishing the only "proper" way of thinking by lumping everyone who disagrees them in with whatever group is currently "the enemy", in this case "gamers".
What I also do is correct people when I think they are wrong - which is a normal in a discussion, I would think?

I also fail to understand how having a negative reaction to being called something (which again, I don't, call me whatever you want) would make me a hypocrite. I'd be a hypocrite if I blocked you for calling me an asshole.

Quoting: rustybroomhandleMaybe YOU need the safe space where you can be an asshole without being challenged.

I welcome every single challenge and never back away from a discussion (well, except if its been going on for ages and I grow tired of it). Quite in contrast to other people who just love to block those they disagree with or whose directness they cannot handle.

Quoting: rustybroomhandleWhen people disagree with you, you call them weak minded and whatever the hell else...

I have not called a single person weak-minded for disagreeing with me. That is something I'd never do.
I call people weak-minded if they are weak-minded. And quite a few people are - often those who then go ahead and demand people censor themselves or hold back to protect their feelings. Another thing I would never do.
Or, if that fails, block people for disagreeing with them. Yet another thing I'd never do.

I'd block people for harassing me, stalking me or stuff like that - but that hasn't really happened yet.

Quoting: rustybroomhandleAnyway, I had you blocked for a reason.

Q.E.D.


Last edited by TheSHEEEP on 20 April 2020 at 1:35 pm UTC

Quoting: TheSHEEEPOr, if that fails, block people for disagreeing with them. Yet another thing I'd never do.

Have you considered that maybe they block you because they find you annoying, not because they disagree with you? How is blocking a source of irritation a negative thing, if that's all you are to them?

Your smarter-than-thou attitude and talk of bubbles might hold some merit if these people weren't simply blocking some random dude with an abrasive manner on a forum. It just does not matter. They have better things to do. It's like walking away from an obnoxious loudmouth in a pub. He/she doesn't necessarily deserve an audience.

Now, if they were getting all their news exclusively from sources they happen to agree with, that would be an actual problem.

Quoting: tuubiHave you considered that maybe they block you because they find you annoying, not because they disagree with you? How is blocking a source of irritation a negative thing, if that's all you are to them?

For me, there's stuff worth an answer, stuff worth at least thought and (lots of) stuff I just ignore. And then there's - as said, very seldomly - stuff that is not worth an answer and in the same time annoying (and not the first time so). I think it's mostly the tone where you can already tell that an answer would be totally fruitless. The tone of "everybody who thinks or feel differently is stupid". The tone that tells people that someone will not even consider to reconsider.