Alexandre Julliard of CodeWeavers today announced the Wine 5.9 development release, which sounds quite an exciting one. With the Wine team keeping up their regular biweekly release schedule, the amount that goes in is pretty damn impressive for this open source compatibility layer.
While we already have the external DXVK project for translating Direct3D 9/10/11 to Vulkan, which is working out really well so far, the main Wine team are pursuing their own way and this release has "major" progress on that for the WineD3D backend. No need for sour grapes about it though, perhaps the rivalry between the competing methods will be good for both and we as users end up with a tastier drink.
Other highlights:
- Initial support for splitting dlls into PE and Unix parts.
- Support for generating PDB files when building PE dlls.
- Timestamp updates in the Kernel User Shared Data.
They also noted 28 bugs fixed. Some fixed recently, some fixed a while ago that had someone go back and check on it. Some of the titles seeing improvements are: Deus Ex GOTY, Hearts of Iron IV, NVIDIA RTX Voice installer, both of the newer Hitman titles, Good Company, Grand Theft Auto V and more.
See the full announcement here.
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Major progress on the WineD3D Vulkan backend.
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Last edited by mrdeathjr on 22 May 2020 at 7:32 pm UTC
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Last edited by mrdeathjr on 22 May 2020 at 7:32 pm UTC
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So any examples of WineD3D Vulkan vs DXVK? Anything Vulkan work yet? I'd like to try it out.
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So any examples of WineD3D Vulkan vs DXVK? Anything Vulkan work yet? I'd like to try it out.
I don't know much about WineD3D, but I don't get the impression that it's at a point where we should start making comparisons like that. I have a feeling that it would be a bit like comparing apples to oranges.
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I still hope they continue working on their old translation layer too not just Vulkan
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So any examples of WineD3D Vulkan vs DXVK? Anything Vulkan work yet? I'd like to try it out.
dont matter because wined3d development is too slow compared with dxvk
dxvk development is more active and resolve bugs in less time
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Last edited by mrdeathjr on 22 May 2020 at 9:22 pm UTC
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So any examples of WineD3D Vulkan vs DXVK? Anything Vulkan work yet? I'd like to try it out.
dont matter because wined3d development is too slow compared with dxvk
dxvk development is more active and resolve bugs in less time
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Jesus... Backends fanboy is a new thing.
It's ALWAYS good more projects improving in the same time, competition is good for everyone, on FOSS this is even more evident.
I hope that WineD3D evolves well
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wined3d not have future because when stay ready if stay ready, pass many time and most users need solutions now aka dxvk
and another detail, most users dont care give support to wined3d because devs are too slow (report issue and wait, if have luck can resolve around 1 year but in other cases dont be solved)
thankfully dxvk finish with vicious circle of wined3d support in most things
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Last edited by mrdeathjr on 23 May 2020 at 12:56 am UTC
and another detail, most users dont care give support to wined3d because devs are too slow (report issue and wait, if have luck can resolve around 1 year but in other cases dont be solved)
thankfully dxvk finish with vicious circle of wined3d support in most things
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Last edited by mrdeathjr on 23 May 2020 at 12:56 am UTC
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legluondunet May 23, 2020
I don't understand why Wine dev team continue wined3d instead of adopt DXVK?
What is their goal here? What are the differences between them?
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What is their goal here? What are the differences between them?
Last edited by legluondunet on 23 May 2020 at 12:55 am UTC
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I don't understand why Wine dev team continue wined3d instead of adopt DXVK?
What is their goal here? What are the differences between them?
this article have more information about that (thanks to phoronix user):
https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2019-January/138023.html
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Some more info by the DXVK dev himself here, quoted below for convenience as it's short enough:I don't understand why Wine dev team continue wined3d instead of adopt DXVK?
What is their goal here? What are the differences between them?
this article have more information about that (thanks to phoronix user):
https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2019-January/138023.html
>[Wine/WineD3D and DXVK] also share very similar and complimentary goals
Except that they don't. DXVK is purely gaming-focussed with the goal to be fast, wined3d has different needs to take care of and also supports way more APIs.
>why are they separate projects
Because I started DXVK as a hobby project and just wanted to get things done efficiently, without having to fight a tool chain and a code base I wasn't familiar with at all.
>Are there plans for DXVK to be upstreamed
No.
Been a while since [this topic was last brought up], but it usually results in lots of unnecessary drama, accusations being thrown towards the Wine project, and people spreading misinformation.
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Back to fixed bugs, this wine version fix in my case alt-tab age of empires II issue and text in chat window (cheats)
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Also having different tools to achieve the same goal is better because in case of an incompatibility with DXVK, people are glad they can switch back to WineD3D. Imagine if X11 development was completely abandoned in favour of Wayland, that would be a real mess.
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Back to fixed bugs, this wine version fix in my case alt-tab age of empires II issue and text in chat window (cheats)
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Are the sports cars an unintended side effect of the fix?
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So any examples of WineD3D Vulkan vs DXVK? Anything Vulkan work yet? I'd like to try it out.
Well Splinter Cell: Blacklist for one only works with WindeD3D
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Are the sports cars an unintended side effect of the fix?Yeah, and HOW DO YOU TURN THIS BIGDADDY OFF?
:P
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Back to fixed bugs, this wine version fix in my case alt-tab age of empires II issue and text in chat window (cheats)
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Are the sports cars an unintended side effect of the fix?
only more for chat window, in before versions text in chat window show severe flickering
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Like comparing apples to apple blossoms? "Look there, that might be an apple some day."So any examples of WineD3D Vulkan vs DXVK? Anything Vulkan work yet? I'd like to try it out.
I don't know much about WineD3D, but I don't get the impression that it's at a point where we should start making comparisons like that. I have a feeling that it would be a bit like comparing apples to oranges.
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DXVK was created due to WineD3D being subpar. As long as Proton includes DXVK, I can stay away from vanilla WINE.
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Comandante Ñoñardo May 24, 2020
What about DXVK extra memory consumption?...
Maybe wineD3D-Vulkan is more efficient in memory management.
Maybe wineD3D-Vulkan is more efficient in memory management.
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