Stadia Pro now has 17 games to redeem, with Elder Scrolls Online soon

The website is LITERALLY called Gaming ON Linux!

It isn't called *Gaming Only Exclusively Native Games On Linux"

If people don't like the content of an article, then don't read it! It's that easy!

Also Sparhawk, I enjoyed your comment the most, because that video isn't referring to Stadia. They're referring to MMOs and other games where your HAVE to have an internet connection. They even state in the video that gaming services, where you can stream games, is ok. It's about 0330 into the video if you'd like to actually watch the video.

Even still then, if a person understands what they're paying for IT'S NOT FRAUD.

And if anyone thinks they own their games on Steam, double check the agreement.

We will continue to cover Stadia, it is not up for discussion.

Quoting: PatolaBut think of that, does Stadia allow people outside the regions to take responsibility for their connection and use the service regardless? No, they do not allow this.

Indeed Stadia is officially available only within certain regions, but I'm outside these regions and I still use it. I get a bit more latency but is still very playable, some games more than others.

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Quoting: sudoshredEven still then, if a person understands what they're paying for IT'S NOT FRAUD.

I think you should have watched the video before responding this. It addresses this point in painful details.

The video isn't on topic! They literally say:

Quote"Games as a Service" is not the same as a "game service". A "game service" is usually a rental system. So if you pay a company twenty bucks a month and can rent games or have them streamed to you, but you can also buy them outright somewhere, then that's not what I'm talking about. That's not fraud, that's fine.

https://youtu.be/tUAX0gnZ3Nw?t=186

Quoting: GuestI know you build a case before about posting Stadia news...but I forgot to be honest and fail to see reason for these kind of news updates on it. Not trying to be an asshole about it, just failing to see the linux connection here.

You can play these games on your Linux desktop. So it's being covered.


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Quoting: GuestI know you build a case before about posting Stadia news...but I forgot to be honest and fail to see reason for these kind of news updates on it. Not trying to be an asshole about it, just failing to see the linux connection here.

Stadia does several things that are good for Linux, whether Google intended it or not;

• Vulkan adoption: Ubisoft and Rockstar are among two major companies who have adopted Vulkan. Vulkan adoption is good because it lays the groundwork for native development and because it requires no work for WINE as opposed to DX11 or 12 where DXVK or VK3D is necessary and gives a performance penalty. Speaking of native development, I'd argue it would have been harder for Metro developers to decide for a native release if the necessity for a Vulkan renderer did not exist already (Stadia port).


• Stadia is built on top of Debian. It's to be expected that progress made to Debian for sake of Stadia will come back upstream.


• Stadia will allow you to play games that don't work with Proton because of anticheat. This helps user retention.

The only thing I would be concerned with Stadia is the possibility of it being used for ChromeOS.

Quoting: sudoshredAnd if anyone thinks they own their games on Steam, double check the agreement.

This kind of argument just dilutes the difference between streaming service and Steam/GOG. There are many DRM-free games on Steam, and you can do lots more with them than you ever could with Stadia.And I am pretty confident if Steam goes down, they will likely make it so you can download and be able to play your games without a connection.. So the whole "You don't own your games on Steam either" is just diluting the difference between Stadia and Steam to justify why using Stadia is OK in that regard.
For instance you can copy your DRM free games to a CD. You can't do that with Stadia.

Not arguing for or against Stadia in general but I find the "You don't own your games on Steam either" like a smokescreen. Yes, you don't own them but you can do what I said you can do and that's alot more than a streaming service will allow you.

Quoting: Patola

Quoting: dubigrasu

Quoting: PatolaBut think of that, does Stadia allow people outside the regions to take responsibility for their connection and use the service regardless? No, they do not allow this.

Indeed Stadia is officially available only within certain regions, but I'm outside these regions and I still use it. I get a bit more latency but is still very playable, some games more than others.

Interesting. How do you do that?

Google checks for your location only at registration, which is a precaution that makes sense to me, for (like you mentioned) latency/support reasons. Most likely they will extend their supported area eventually as the infrastructure gets in place.
So basically I added some noname vpn extension to Chrome, made the registration (from a supported country) and then discarded the extension. Once registered you can use Stadia from anywhere as long you can deal with the latency, I have personally 33ms.

They are very vague about using your account in unsupported countries, my guess is they just don't want to advertise that is possible, but at the same time they don't actively prohibit it (Netflix style).

In case anyone wasn't aware about Stadia's open-source bits: https://github.com/googlestadia

Quoting: drlambIn case anyone wasn't aware about Stadia's open-source bits: https://github.com/googlestadia

Plus Open Match and Agones, both of which Google co-founded. I covered them in a different Stadia roundup post.


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Quoting: LinuxwarperThe only thing I would be concerned with Stadia is the possibility of it being used for ChromeOS.

So the gist of what you said so far (here and elsewhere) is that you're worried and you don't want ChromeOS becoming too competitive with Linux, OK, fair enough. I'm not gonna argue about that (enough arguments on the previous article) but the way I see it, not only Linux will get a competitor, but also Windows will get one. And I somehow doubt that Linux desktop/market share will be the one affected, I see more likely that Windows will go down in that case.
And we're about choices right? If Google's choice is to promote ChromeOS, well, let them.

I'm sure you have other arguments to share, (and boy I'm almost sorry for bringing this up), but I have no desire for ChromeOS to fail so that Linux can succeed. If Linux has merits, it will stand on its own.